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[scheung]

why not s2000?

I went from Accord to DC5R then i wanted to go for S2000

But the cost difference btw a S2000 and an E9 was like 20k

[fatboyz39]

.................................... ayc wooooooooooooooooooo.............

[BlitZ]

this thread still alive?

[Jim80y]

Barely... anyone running E85? From what I've seen, you can have an 11 second quarter mile car with an aftermarket fuel pump, injectors, and tune. As a bonus run much lower EGT too.

[scheung]

270 atw....with just injectors and tbe....

Engine will be gone alot sooner.....

[fatboyz39]

270 atw....with just injectors and tbe....

Engine will be gone alot sooner.....

How did you come to that conclusion?

[scheung]

How did you come to that conclusion?

read below

[scheung]

GOt this from the evo forum...dont kn if its true or not:

There are lot of benefits from the E85 for sure. Well here are some of the negatives

(1) This is a very very dry fuel with poor lubrication qaulities. Expect much higher wear rates on piston skirts, piston rings, valve guides. Addition of an upper cylinder lubrication is necessary for sure.

(2) Being methanol derived, can have corrosion issues with fuel line fittings. Not the rubber lines themselves, although that can be a problem, but the ethanol can interact with aluminium fittings and pulls the magnesium out of the alloy's. This can become a fine white corrosion which could eventually block the injectors and fuel filter. Replacement of fuel filter should be done every 10 - 15,000km.

(3) Contanimation of engine oil is very high with very destructive results on the longevity of the oil as well engine bearings. Like Methanol engines, recomend 5000km oil changes and use a methanol/ethanol resistant oil. Synthetic oils do suffer more than mineral grade oils with this type of issue. Turbo cars especially will suffer due ot larger ring end gaps and richer air/fuel ratio's as they will get a correspondingly more fuel mixed into the oil. Changing of oil every 5000km absoloutly mandatory.

(4) Don't let the fuel stay in your petrol tank unused for more than a week at a time. Ethanol evaporates as it is exposed to atmosphere and the oxygenation starts to break down. As this breaks down, the resistance to detonation decreases dramatically and a highly tuned car can become a hand grenade in minutes. With most race cars the fuel is drained and refilled at next race meet to ensure this situation doesn't happen. Before you go driving, make sure you have a fresh batch of fuel.


These are the exact same issues Methanol racers have been facing for years. I know there is a large push for everyone to use this fuel, but being in the racing fuel industry and knowing all these side effects, as both a racer and tuner I absoloutly DO NOT recomend that a street vehicle use this fuel. YEs it makes more power, but the side effects are there.

Most petrol based engines in car racing will usually have a well built engine last at least 1 engine a season minimun up to 2 years. Most methanol engines barely last one season with most requiring at least a ring and bearing change halfway through a season.

[Jim80y]

Yep this was in the E85 thread, however there are heaps of guys who have been running it for more than a year with no issues.

I'm still not sure whether to go down the E85 path though, its posts like these that worry me.

[fatboyz39]

Been running E85 for 2-3 years. Was still running 15yr fuel lines when pulled out no real signs of corrosion.

Yes there's more maintence with E85.

[Jim80y]

Yes there's more maintence with E85.

What extra maintenance is involved? Just need to do more frequent spot checks?

[felixR]

BYP ripping it up at the EVONATS with 1:41s around Eastern Creek!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej3M1Z368Y8

[felixR]

everyone's moved to evooz.. booooo

[Jim80y]

Not everyone

[fatboyz39]

Still here Felix .

If anyone needs tuning done, pm me.