Coilovers/ Sway bars/ strut bars/ braces/ cages discussion - DC5 ONLY.

[Didz]

if it increased understeer is it the front one?

Sorry, rear sway bar. Upgraded from AUDM oem to Whiteline 24mm solid.

I doubt you will have issues with it on the stiffest setting, many US and Japanese manufacturers make 24mm and larger bars and I have never heard of subframe damage in a DC5. I have read of the odd instance of endlinks snapping on ClubRSX but suspension components seem to have a really hard time in the colder areas of the US so I doubt even that will happen to you. Also you should head to Winton this Friday and give us a proper review .

Thanks man. I will attempt to stiffen it up a setting when I get a chance. Haha! Probably will take it in January as I will have 2 weeks off. I think you should come up with me

[iVTEC_R]

Quick question, is the EP3R front sway solid or hollow?

[ChargeR]

Quick question, is the EP3R front sway solid or hollow?

I haven't ever cut one in half but the mass of mine suggested it is hollow. The specs listed the Civic HyperRev agree listing it with 3mm wall thickness or something like that.

[iVTEC_R]

I haven't ever cut one in half but the mass of mine suggested it is hollow. The specs listed the Civic HyperRev agree listing it with 3mm wall thickness or something like that.

Oh ok. I've also wondered, how come people who have Toda headers on their DC5's opt for EP3R front sway rather than the Whiteline one? Even though the Whiteline one is adjustable and solid?

Surely the Whiteline one would give as good fitment as the Ep3R sway?

[Didz]

Oh ok. I've also wondered, how come people who have Toda headers on their DC5's opt for EP3R front sway rather than the Whiteline one? Even though the Whiteline one is adjustable and solid?

Surely the Whiteline one would give as good fitment as the Ep3R sway?

Because thicker front sway bar means less oversteer or more understeer. FWD have enough issues with understeer as it is so upgrading it to a thicker, solid bar is not always ideal. This is of course mainly based on the driver and their preferences.

Another reason is the whiteline adjustable front sway will not always fit correctly with aftermarket headers.

EP3R sway is needed as aftermarket headers are made for the JDM Dc5 and thus, need the EP3R sway to fit around the headers. The aussie dc5 sway will get in the way otherwise. Just incase you weren't sure.

[plAythiNG]

I was about to order the cusco type OS front strut bar you were tlaking about yesterday Didz, but the one I seen didnt show it had bolts to bolt onto the firewall as well. So i backed out.

Do you mind PMing me where you ordered yours from?

[tk38]

Didz, when i installed my rear cusco sway bar with Ep3 at the front, it turned the handling to crap. I wouldn't say it was understeer, but it messed with the balance.
I know it goes against every theory, or every word that people say. But once i put a 24mm solid front bar in i got much better balance, and MUCH higher cornering speeds. Now i've told this to a couple of people I know (DC5R's), some decided to trust me and do the same. Every single one of them have agreed with me that it REDUCED understeer.

hehe im prepared for the people telling me i'm wrong, and that my experience is opposite to theory.

[crashprash]

Didz, when i installed my rear cusco sway bar with Ep3 at the front, it turned the handling to crap. I wouldn't say it was understeer, but it messed with the balance.
I know it goes against every theory, or every word that people say. But once i put a 24mm solid front bar in i got much better balance, and MUCH higher cornering speeds. Now i've told this to a couple of people I know (DC5R's), some decided to trust me and do the same. Every single one of them have agreed with me that it REDUCED understeer.

hehe im prepared for the people telling me i'm wrong, and that my experience is opposite to theory.

LOL..that would mean i have ur old problem now since we swapped bars :P

[plAythiNG]

I guess im gonna try with a cusco rear sway and then put on a whiteline front...

[Didz]

Didz, when i installed my rear cusco sway bar with Ep3 at the front, it turned the handling to crap. I wouldn't say it was understeer, but it messed with the balance.
I know it goes against every theory, or every word that people say. But once i put a 24mm solid front bar in i got much better balance, and MUCH higher cornering speeds. Now i've told this to a couple of people I know (DC5R's), some decided to trust me and do the same. Every single one of them have agreed with me that it REDUCED understeer.

hehe im prepared for the people telling me i'm wrong, and that my experience is opposite to theory.

I think i understand where you're coming from. I just dont feel that the car is handling the way it should. In some respects it feels balanced, in others it feels as though its a fat slug.

Did you test it before and after the front 24mm sway install on the track?

I might need to check out some practice days and see how it feels. I think I will need the rear strut as well.

Plaything, pm sent.

[ChargeR]

Didz, when i installed my rear cusco sway bar with Ep3 at the front, it turned the handling to crap. I wouldn't say it was understeer, but it messed with the balance.
I know it goes against every theory, or every word that people say. But once i put a 24mm solid front bar in i got much better balance, and MUCH higher cornering speeds. Now i've told this to a couple of people I know (DC5R's), some decided to trust me and do the same. Every single one of them have agreed with me that it REDUCED understeer.

hehe im prepared for the people telling me i'm wrong, and that my experience is opposite to theory.

I am not going to tell you your theory is wrong or anything, but which track did you measure these increased cornering speeds at? Got any representative numbers? It is certainly possible for a larger rear bar to have the opposite than expected effect, don't let anyone tell you differently.

[tk38]

LOL..that would mean i have ur old problem now since we swapped bars :P

Sorry prash! haha

But yeah, no track special road home from uni basically. Take it all the time, so i know what speed i travel before and after. For figures, well i use to get around it at 60, tyre squeal occurs at around 65. Now i can do 70 easily, flat, no tyre squeal, no problem. I have gone through faster, but i dont really have time to look at the speedo, and im not willing to go alot faster to try make it squeal/understeer (safety first )

But please note that i dont have coilovers. Just front and rear sway bars.

[plAythiNG]

So im really undecided in what suspension setup to get.

Any got any opnion on buddyclub RSD or even the buddyclub RSD EVO version..

Im just looking at alternatives to the monoflex.

[crashprash]

if u dont need edfc try toda fightex DA or ohlins

[mrntegra]

So im really undecided in what suspension setup to get.

Any got any opnion on buddyclub RSD or even the buddyclub RSD EVO version..

Im just looking at alternatives to the monoflex.

I've got RSD's on my DC5 mate.. I love them but then again ive never had coilovers before so cant compare them to anything only lowered cars on standard shocks! They are rough for everyday driving.. u feel every bump but i like that! 90% of the time i dont have the interior in my boot so if i wanna adjust my coilovers i can..

I just brought a ep3 sway bar will it make that much difference to the handling compared to standard type S sway?? iv'e got following on car

J's Racing front Strut bar
Rear JDM floor bar(goes under carpet in boot)
Standard rear sway