X-Force Header Vs TODA Header

[T R DC5]

I've just changed my header for my DC5 Type S from an X-Force header to a Toda header and here's what I felt the differences are straight after the switch over:

Toda:

• More torque at mid and high rpm.

• No exhaust popping sound when down shift at high rpm, don't know why there's no more 'pop' at the exhaust after the switch over, I had metal cat for both headers.

X-Force:

• More free revving, especially in the high rpm, this is probably due to its slightly larger diameter pipes.

• Exhaust 'popping' sound when down shift at higher rpm, sounds awesome!

Conclusion:
Toda is definite a better header, no doubt, I mean if you pay $1.7k for a header which is more than twice the cost of the X-Force, $800, of course you expect something Great!

I reckon the X-Force header is pretty good for its value though. With a Hondata KPro or similar devices to allow a retune of the engine management system, the X-Force can produce very well improved power output. I'm not sure if anyone tried tuning with this header but I believe it does have potential.

In general, the X-Force header is good for its value and the Toda is a great header. The tales of Toda headers are true. I wish I have Dyno sheets but didn't manage to dyno the car before the switch over, oh well.

[thegame-01]

it would of been a good comparison before and after to see the diff.
but im sure you can fell the diff

[lowie]

Not sure how true this is, but pretty sure i've heard more than once that the X-Force header is a backward step in terms of peak power compared to stock?

[M@lew]

Maybe to compare me and Uc should race. I just realised he has Xforce and I have TODA headers.

More on topic, I had XForce headers on my old car and found them to be pretty good for the price I paid for them.

The popping sound made is generally due to the richness of the car I believe but I'm not sure why the header makes the difference.

[plAythiNG]

i got toda header, and i have a backfire whenever i change gears... LOVE IT!

[vippy84]

Maybe to compare me and Uc should race

kids these days!

[bungsai]

kids these days!

i know right.

just get toda and be done with it.

all this talk of racing.....



hahahahhaha

[TypeSexy]

i say its the placebo affect.

[jj17]

Not sure how true this is, but pretty sure i've heard more than once that the X-Force header is a backward step in terms of peak power compared to stock?

but i assume, just because its a loss of peak power does not mean its not a better header than stock. like he said, its alot more free flowing and u get faster and better throttle response no?

top end peak power does not come into play unless you are gunning it in a straight line.

[M@lew]

kids these days!

Obviously on the track. *hint hint* (Uc and Rudi come to track)

[Daft_Man]

so what's better to buy between JDM DC5R header or the xforce header?? Better gain??

[T R DC5]

I've not tried JDM header so cannot advice but I reckon xforce header's not too bad hey. I think the slightly larger diameter piping makes it more free flowing but slight loss in mid rpm torque. If proper tuning is done I reckon the xforce header can gain some nice output.

Would be great if someone has done this and share their experience here.

[se7en]

gotta love xforce ...

[AsHw3e]

gotta love xforce ...

gotta love toda :P lollll

[danielj]

i know right.

just get toda and be done with it.

all this talk of racing.....



hahahahhaha

LOOL, like you can talk..biggest hoon out!! saw you race a silver 5r just before..ha!!