How to spend $2000 on a dc2r?

[tinkerbell]

Quite possibly true.... however it's VERY easy to go backwards from the balanced DC2R suspension setup...

Changing ride height affects so many aspects of the suspension that you may not be aware of... so beware.

Also stiffer setups may be nice in perfect conditions... but this is the real world where there is rain, bumpy surfaces on roads etc. This is why the DC2R OEM setup is such a good compromise... you can pretty much drive it fast everywhere.

so your suggestion would be to bank the $2000?

[G_Vtec]

clutch kit (including LW flywheel), Koni yellow shocks and aftermarket springs. That will fall well within your 2k budget. I know cos i just done the same thing

[mugsee]

I say, spend some money on meeting up with some of the guys on the forums with dc2rs and shouting them a coffee/beer/snack/etc, and get them to show you their suspension setup/audio setup/track setup/etc and get their opinions in person on what they love best about what they've each done to their own cars.

[Wlee2]

I say, spend some money on meeting up with some of the guys on the forums with dc2rs and shouting them a coffee/beer/snack/etc, and get them to show you their suspension setup/audio setup/track setup/etc and get their opinions in person on what they love best about what they've each done to their own cars.

you should only say that if hes in melb.. why advantage the sydney siders in getting free drinks and coffee =P..

[freakygeek]

so your suggestion would be to bank the $2000?

hahaha... well maybe it would be a better idea than spending it on something and ending up with something worse than what you started with??

$2000 won't get a lot really.

IMO...

Buy some semi's and some good brake pads and fluid. Put an oil pan baffle in.... and spend the rest on a trackday.

[Jingers]

Quite possibly true.... however it's VERY easy to go backwards from the balanced DC2R suspension setup...

Changing ride height affects so many aspects of the suspension that you may not be aware of... so beware.

Also stiffer setups may be nice in perfect conditions... but this is the real world where there is rain, bumpy surfaces on roads etc. This is why the DC2R OEM setup is such a good compromise... you can pretty much drive it fast everywhere.

Some body roll isn't a bad thing. Without some roll your car will be a handful in the wet... understeer/oversteer/all-steer...

yup i thought about this factor when i suggest coilovers cambo. It is quite the relevent point. However i expect users to stuff up their current sussy once they put coilovers on. Its a given they will fuck up something or make it even worse. HOWEVER, the user then has the ability to learn and adjust his coilovers to his liking and develop his own style of driving without limitations of the stock sus.

in essence he learns more about his machine then what is capable with stock sussy. Of course this method requires someone who is into driving and into mechnical side of things as alot of tinkering around has to be made

[JCE]

Bank the money.

or

Spend it on fuel driving the car.

[freakygeek]

in essence he learns more about his machine then what is capable with stock sussy. Of course this method requires someone who is into driving and into mechnical side of things as alot of tinkering around has to be made

I look at it from a different point of view. And it is this :-

Honda's engineers are better than me. Therefore I will accept what they have given me and learn how to use it to its potential and NOT adjust the car to correct my own deficiencies....

[tinkerbell]

so in Freakygeek's world, the engineering master piece (e.g. the Type R or NSX vehicle) is more important then the driver, and the driver must be humbled by it and improve to a point where they are able to drive the car to the best of their ability, allowing the car's limits to set the drivers limits...

this is not everyone's world, especially not mine...

i have changed/adjusted/modified nearly everything on my car in some way, to taylor it to my preferences... (even if it WAS a proper Type R - i still would have done this, no matter what...)

that is the whole intrinsic basis for car modification - to get a car closer to what its driver wants it to be...


hence we get back to my question - what do YOU actually want from your car?

or are you just modifying for modifyings' sake?

[Jingers]

I look at it from a different point of view. And it is this :-

Honda's engineers are better than me. Therefore I will accept what they have given me and learn how to use it to its potential and NOT adjust the car to correct my own deficiencies....

perfectly valid points cambo. as i said the point i raised is only for a few people. the people that is more interested in learning about cars modfications and the abilities of each modification. They might not be as fast as alot of people, hell they might not be as fast as some stock cars but imo if they understand and learns then watch out.

[Wlee2]

Ehh.. at the end of the day its your car..

You shouldn't really need to ask what should be done.. theres no right and wrongs in the modifying world..

theres just personal preferences and what people would do if it was their car.

If you want to modify for looks and get a big body kit and GT wing and things like that.. theres plenty of people who like show cars.

If you want to put race parts in and go track it hardcore that works too (im sure tinks would love you too)

If you enjoy sound systems and a huge appreciation for music.. why not?

if you enjoy your car stock, im sure theres theres actually prolly the majority of the rest of the world that drives stock cars and doesnt modify.

dont modify a car just because you can.. modify it because you want to put on, so you enjoy your car more.

and theres the rare few who will goto the dark side of the honda world.. if you want to join that too.. thats ok as well =P

the dark side opens many posibilities and unatural powers.. =P..

neway my point its really your choice what most people have stated here in this thread is what they would prefer to do...

before this gets to heated up =P.. to each their own..

[freakygeek]

so in Freakygeek's world, the engineering master piece (e.g. the Type R or NSX vehicle) is more important then the driver, and the driver must be humbled by it and improve to a point where they are able to drive the car to the best of their ability, allowing the car's limits to set the drivers limits...

You are taking my comments the wrong way. Let me clarify...

You are modifying you car to be better at a certain thing - track use. Correct? Ok... so how much have you sacrificed in terms of real-world performance? Jason will agree that his DC2R (as hugely fast as it is on track) is next to useless on wet and bumpy B and C roads....

Whereas my car can go down to EC, turn out a 1:58 on it's first outing there, then blast up the Putty on the way home. Wet roads? Pffft who cares. Bad road surfaces? No real worries.

this is not everyone's world, especially not mine...

i have changed/adjusted/modified nearly everything on my car in some way, to taylor it to my preferences... (even if it WAS a proper Type R - i still would have done this, no matter what...)

that is the whole intrinsic basis for car modification - to get a car closer to what its driver wants it to be...

See, and this is perfectly fine with me... as long as you understand (which I'm SURE you do) that everything you do in modifying your car is a compromise.

Wherever you make a gain with a vehicle modification you are likely to be making a compromise in another area... whether that be noise, fuel economy, comfort, tyre wear, wet weather stability etc etc...

hence we get back to my question - what do YOU actually want from your car?

or are you just modifying for modifyings' sake?

This is the million dollar question.

[tinkerbell]

You are taking my comments the wrong way. Let me clarify...

no, i was just trying to use (twist) your comments to create a black/white world...

of course as your clarification points out - this place doesnt exist

it is all about compromise

[arron]

Thanks and yeah.. I do believe it comes down to a compromise.. I have been pondering the question "what do I really want from my car?"...

I'd probably say that i want to modify my car to be suitable for OP... But then again.. the stock setup is pretty ideal for it...

THanks for all the suggestions.. I might go get a baffled sump, pads, helmet, CAI (as I did a ghetto style CAI and it looks like crap) and some track days...

[SPL_K]

OP is quiet different to track. Theres a higher stress level going through there and any single mistake will see you tumbling into trouble. Yes the DC2R is a great car for OP. But I think for OP coilovers would be best but then again its all personal preference. Remember a lot has to do with the driver but the car helps. You'd notice a huge improvement in handling, you could corner faster, you'd get less understeer (well depends on the driver but thats what i noticed on my old car). Also tyres would be the next the mod i guess, stiffer suspension requires better tyres.

Are you planning to be the best at OP or there just for fun? I'm sure you could push yourself through there sometimes and get a real feel for the car but then again theres that risk. Unfortunately this happened to me and my car was written off nearly a year from today.

Maybe your mod list should start with some good tyres ?

With your budget i'd probably go Tyres and save the rest towards coilovers, or Mugen Intake + a couple of Struts. All of them will help towards handling and the intake would help with response which is quiet important for NA cars!

But you've already made up your mind ! Good luck with the car ! I'm still searching for a dc2r