WTF, man i have 1.5 all around and have lots of meat left on my tie end rods thats weird dude. fingers crossed for good weather, btw sorry to hear about your garage eddie that fcking sucks mate shame we wont see you tomrrow. was your gear insured under home and contents??
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Yeah i dunno...well the most extreme point of where the thread was gone was at -2.5...so im half assuming -1.2 wasnt the max but I couldn't achieve what I wanted anyway so I'm not too fussed.
ps. won't be going tomorow either...today cost me so much I can't afford to =/Comment
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seriously?? u spent all that cash getting ready for track and now your not goin
well my mates are going again on the 24th if u wanna go then. ill still go tomorrow with alex
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i know it sucks. didn't budget to spend so much today and i did.
come again on the 24th :PComment
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As SpoonS states you need to shorten your tie-rods somehow. Inverted tie rod ends should do it as you say because they are generally shorter. I don't believe they have the advertised effect on steering geometry though, refer to this thread: LINK
I know of quite a few guys that have run into the same issue myself included. I use custom modified tie rods from a fellow named Todd on ClubRSX and I would recommend them since they don't mess up your front geometry like some alternatives and they are basically OEM quality. I have used J's Racing tie rods in the past but would not recommend them.Comment
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Funny you should mention the J's Racing tie rods. I've heard the same. What exactly is wrong with them?Originally posted by ChargeR View PostComment
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I can't comment on any general design/manufacturing issues but my set failed after less than a couple of thousand street kilometers and one track day. The inner ball joint on one side developed more than 5mm of play/movement. It was very disconcerting going into turn 1 at Wakefield, and it could have been disastrous. I received a PM from one other member that had the same problem.Originally posted by SpoonS View Post
Aftermarket parts will almost always have worse quality control than OEM I guess. These days I try to retain as many OEM parts as I can.
I forgot to mention that I also used my OEM tie rods with 15mm cut off the ends and the thread extended for probably 8-10 track days and over 30,000kms with not one issue.Comment
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So the option is to modify the thread on my tie rods and extend the thread, or to buy shorter tie rod ends.
Originally posted by ChargeR View Post
Pretty good read, skimmed alot of it though, hope I got the right information out of it. Basically says (in reference to inverted tie rods) that inverting tie rods, which has a similar effect to using a relocation bracket raising the ends of the tie rods will actually worsen bump steer?
Guess you are refering to this dude
How much did it cost to get them off him shipped? (roughly if prefered)
AwesomeOriginally posted by ChargeR View Post
why are you no longer using them?
And since you opinion is that inverted tie rod ends do not have the effect of reducing bump steer, do you believe that it has a disadvantage? (this is me considering buying 'inverted shorter tie rod ends' vs modified tie rodComment
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all the money and walked away with the same result =/ admittedly they did spend the time and I guess they couldn't have predicted this problem as it seems pretty specific to the DC5 front suspension geometry. But would atleast think they would have dropped the initial quote a little bit atleast..Originally posted by plAythiNG View PostComment
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group buy the tie rods !Comment
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just get the shortened/modified tie rod. It'll save you having to get them in the end anyway
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Yep the inverted ends will make bump steer worse according to that fellows measurements and calculations. I agree with his ideas too. However my Mugen N1 dampers have the tie rod ends mounted inverted so there must be some reason to do it, even if it is to avoid the tie rods interfering with the chassis at very low ride heights.Originally posted by lowie View PostPretty good read, skimmed alot of it though, hope I got the right information out of it. Basically says (in reference to inverted tie rods) that inverting tie rods, which has a similar effect to using a relocation bracket raising the ends of the tie rods will actually worsen bump steer?
Guess you are refering to this dude
How much did it cost to get them off him shipped? (roughly if prefered)
Awesome why are you no longer using them?
And since you opinion is that inverted tie rod ends do not have the effect of reducing bump steer, do you believe that it has a disadvantage? (this is me considering buying 'inverted shorter tie rod ends' vs modified tie rod
I got the tie rods for roughly 300 USD shipped from memory.
I stopped using the shortened OEM rods because I could only use them with the significant lowering and camber of my coilovers, if I wanted to put my stock suspension back in I needed to change to a set of unmodified tie rods I had. Which sucked. So I changed to a more versatile solution.
I am not a big fan of the inverted tie rod ends, their effect on the steering system is questionable, they aren't as good quality or reliable as OEM, and there are too many issues where people have to use two nuts and loctite on them because the split pin won't fit. Which is just ghetto and less reliable than it should be. I would go for the modified OEM tie rods honestly.Comment
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Fair. I guess now i'm on the market for modified OEM tie rods, would prefer that > modifying my own so I do have the option of having a spare set in case it does crank out on me
Any ideas on the length of a OEM tierod from the end which connects up to the steering to the end of the thread?
and typically how big is the thread extension, ie. length of OEM tierod thread vs. a well and sufficiently modified oneComment
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get the one from clubrsx together
i wana get it tooComment
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