Has your rear ever come out?

[tinkerbell]

is it my driving or what, but i cant come close to reaching the limits of a dc2r on the street? car doesnt like street driving, track driving is a different story though

hebe - i think he means that he doesnt even try to reach the limits because they are so far away, but on the track - he does try...

Iceman - i drive hard on the street sometimes, and know that i am only at about 70-80% of the limit... to reach 90% of the limit on the street would be stupid - the risk is just too great!

however, on the track i drive at about 95-98% of the limit... it is that tiny 2% that is such a fine line between glory and failure

[sangers]

im surprised more dc5 owners haven't responded. i experienced regular oversteer taking long hard corners around local mountain roads when my DC5R was in stock form. i find this behaviour safer than understeer on FWDs since all you have to do is back off the throttle to correct it. ever since i started modding sways and struts, i've been trying to strengthen the rear more and more to get it back to how it use to me. i now have a rear sway, rear tie, custom rear strut and just a front sway and front strut. if c pillar bars worked, i'd probably get one, but many report that they make no difference in DC5s

[Chi]

Mugen rear strut seems to 'appear' more effective than a c pillar bar would

[Page]

My back end comes out quite easy even with out laying off the power mid corner (I have coilover set on the softest setting for the rear).

[BF]

I'd like to extend what hebe and tinkerbell have said by saying that if you are regularly experiencing the rear coming in the dc2r or the dc5r then you are probably driving inappropriately for the street.

On another note, those who think the rear of dc2r or dc5r comes out easily should try driving a rwd turbo car, especially in the wet or with a thicker rear sway bar.

[matt]

i've had oversteer a few of times on the street. once which was at a point when i really didnt expect it, which gave me a bit of a fright
i recently did a track day when it was pissing down with rain, which while fun was actualy really useful to get some more practice at controlling different oversteer situation and some high speed oversteer.

[tofu]

im surprised more dc5 owners haven't responded. i experienced regular oversteer taking long hard corners around local mountain roads when my DC5R was in stock form. i find this behaviour safer than understeer on FWDs since all you have to do is back off the throttle to correct it. ever since i started modding sways and struts, i've been trying to strengthen the rear more and more to get it back to how it use to me. i now have a rear sway, rear tie, custom rear strut and just a front sway and front strut. if c pillar bars worked, i'd probably get one, but many report that they make no difference in DC5s

wouldn't taking your foot of the gas pedal when you are experiencing some oversteer mid corner cause a bit of lift off oversteer?

i always thought when the car is understeering mid corner you back off the accelerator to bring the car back to line...

[felixR]

from the previous owner.

anyone interested in advanced driving courses ?

you bought a beast!

i am

[tinkerbell]

anyone interested in advanced driving courses ?

post up a new thread in General Automotive!

[GoldCoastDC5R]

im surprised more dc5 owners haven't responded. i experienced regular oversteer taking long hard corners around local mountain roads when my DC5R was in stock form. i find this behaviour safer than understeer on FWDs since all you have to do is back off the throttle to correct it. ever since i started modding sways and struts, i've been trying to strengthen the rear more and more to get it back to how it use to me. i now have a rear sway, rear tie, custom rear strut and just a front sway and front strut. if c pillar bars worked, i'd probably get one, but many report that they make no difference in DC5s

Backing off the throttle is the worst thing to do when a FWD oversteers, at least at high speed anyways, maybe at 60-80kph this is the best option but beyond that you need to plant your foot on the gas.

Had my car oversteer a few times at 130-150kph at the track and the only way to get out is to plant your foot on the accelerator. Evan is a master at this technique although scared the crap out of me when i was in the car with him. Trust me spinning at 140kph aint fun.

And as others have said lift oversteer or oversteer due to unsettling of the rear of the car is common with dc5r and dc2r

On track lift oversteer is a very good technique to use through tighter slower coners 60-80kph. brake prior to corner keeping a bit too much speed, turn in, tap the brake and put the car into oversteer than plant the foot and accelerate out of the corner.

[Jingers]

im surprised more dc5 owners haven't responded. i experienced regular oversteer taking long hard corners around local mountain roads when my DC5R was in stock form. i find this behaviour safer than understeer on FWDs since all you have to do is back off the throttle to correct it. ever since i started modding sways and struts, i've been trying to strengthen the rear more and more to get it back to how it use to me. i now have a rear sway, rear tie, custom rear strut and just a front sway and front strut. if c pillar bars worked, i'd probably get one, but many report that they make no difference in DC5s

I think in your case you haven't really experienced oversteer. As others have said if you lift off your foot that would be the most fucked up thing you could possibly do to correct oversteer. Unless you arent really oversteering just twitching abit in the rear

[tinkerbell]

hmmm, i imagine "oversteer on long hard corners" = drifting??

[felixR]

hmmm, i imagine "oversteer on long hard corners" = drifting??

apparently it's called 'ass dragging' for fwd cars