NSW CAMS Supersprint 2008

[felixR]

maybe me

[Talos]

id like to build up to it after some experience too

[benson]

maybe me

Honda's need to dominate the field.. too many hair dresser Mx-5's

[e240]

Thats an improvement...From Hairdresser's cars to Shopping trolleys

[05dc5S]

Any more honda's coming on board next year? i think we might do a couple of rounds, not the whole season.

i'll be there

[TODA AU]

Honda's need to dominate the field.. too many hair dresser Mx-5's

Agreed...
The more the competition, the better...

[TODA AU]

1.3 means if he removes anything, he is in breach too...

the fitment of a Mugen intake is not *simply* a modification of the "air cleaner" and "filter element" - it is vastly more complicated.

it involves the disconnection, alteration and removal of significant parts of the car (as it was "originally specified" by the manufacturer)

plus, according to 1.7, in the fitment of nominated parts (i.e. new air cleaner and filter element) the modification is strictly limited to the alteration of the nominated components themselves (besides by the drilling of holes for supporting purposes.)

This is my fence sitter's opinion...

3.13 The air cleaner and filter element is free.

As the filter itself is named, the way I read it is the "air cleaner" refers to the airbox itself?
So re 1.7, this would be permitted as fredom is granted in 3.13 as only the specific component refered to is changed.

[m0nty]

This is my fence sitter's opinion...

3.13 The air cleaner and filter element is free.

As the filter itself is named, the way I read it is the "air cleaner" refers to the airbox itself?
So re 1.7, this would be permitted as fredom is granted in 3.13 as only the specific component refered to is changed.

Does that mean ITBs are also allowed? It's very dubious.

[Elwood]

Are these rules very meticulously enforced?

[m0nty]

Are these rules very meticulously enforced?

It's an honest policy system. At the end of the day, not declaring mods to win your class is against the spirit of it all. Only a very minority would even contemplate doing that.

[Elwood]

It's an honest policy system. At the end of the day, not declaring mods to win your class is against the spirit of it all. Only a very minority would even contemplate doing that.

Well, for you to be competitive i highly recommend it.

[TODA AU]

Does that mean ITBs are also allowed? It's very dubious.

The rules are pretty clear...

1.7 Where freedom is permitted to fit nominated or recognised parts, such
freedom is strictly limited to such components themselves and it shall not
be permissible to modify other parts, save by the drilling of holes for
supporting purposes.

Freedom is permitted to airbox & air filter under 3.13 The air cleaner and filter element is free.
The suction pipe from the air cleaner is not mentioned so must remain per 1.7.
Re ITB's
The use of ITB's (quads) is a change of intake manifold.
This is not permitted as it is not expressly given a freedom.
You can port the manifold, but it still must meet 1.7
3.9 Inlet and exhaust manifolds and ports may be internally polished and
reshaped.

[m0nty]

The rules are pretty clear...

1.7 Where freedom is permitted to fit nominated or recognised parts, such
freedom is strictly limited to such components themselves and it shall not
be permissible to modify other parts, save by the drilling of holes for
supporting purposes.

Freedom is permitted to airbox & air filter under 3.13 The air cleaner and filter element is free.
The suction pipe from the air cleaner is not mentioned so must remain per 1.7.
Re ITB's
The use of ITB's (quads) is a change of intake manifold.
This is not permitted as it is not expressly given a freedom.
You can port the manifold, but it still must meet 1.7
3.9 Inlet and exhaust manifolds and ports may be internally polished and
reshaped.

True. The description for "air cleaner" is the one I'm not sure about.

I haven't seen a Mugen intake up close but doesn't it remove the factory inlet pipe? This would make the intake illegal for 2B.

Steve, your trolling got old weeks ago.

[e240]

No, it retains the factory inlet pipe unless you so choose to change it.
As far as I know, Shifty's car retains the stock inlet pipe with associated stock fittings.

[Elwood]

Steve, your trolling got old weeks ago.

Sorry love..



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