DC5R question: MANIFOLD + KPRO

[mountfranklin]

ok, i have a kpro that has maps of injen intake, RRC manifold and toda headers greddy exhaust. ive recently installed the exhaust. and i was wondering if i could install the kpro in as it is just a straight swap and plug in but the questions is would i have a problem with it if i dont install the manifold same time? or should install it at the same time just to be safe. or am i able to drive around with the kpro in with stock manifold? just a curious question and i was planning to just to install my kpro myself thats why as its just sitting at home chilling. lol

[dnapol]

If the kpro is mapped for the intake and intake manifold that you dont have in the car wont run properly. The fuel map will be different as the ecu thinks it is receiving more air than it can

[Batchy]

Be interesting to see what people say here.

Do you have the injen intake?

I wouldnt see a HUGE issue with the kpro (if you are only missing the RRC manifold).

You may have some lag issue or choke issue even idle difference depending on how hard the tune was (if using the max values).

Also could run rich in fuel as the intake is decreased the tune may compensate for the loss in air induction to increase in fuel.

Thats what I reckon but would like to see what others say.

[mountfranklin]

If the kpro is mapped for the intake and intake manifold that you dont have in the car wont run properly. The fuel map will be different as the ecu thinks it is receiving more air than it can

well that does make alot of sense. i think i might just leave it until i can install both things at the same time.

[mountfranklin]

Be interesting to see what people say here.

Do you have the injen intake?

I wouldnt see a HUGE issue with the kpro (if you are only missing the RRC manifold).

You may have some lag issue or choke issue even idle difference depending on how hard the tune was (if using the max values).

Also could run rich in fuel as the intake is decreased the tune may compensate for the loss in air induction to increase in fuel.

Thats what I reckon but would like to see what others say.

nah running stock air box. i was gonna attempt on install the injen when i was install my toda headers and exhaust in but that was gonna take 3 hours and would take abit of chopping and shaping and taking the front bumper bar off and shit so i couldnt be fucked. but instead just bought a gruppe m inake and planning just installing that in.

as for running rich think i am abit with the exhaust ive installed. hitting vtec is fucking sick though, GREDDY if u want it to scream... lmaoo

[Batchy]

If stock air box then definitely DONT install it.

The injen CAI kit has huge gain difference over stock

Hey the few hours to install the injen is worth it

[Timmy_B]

So what car??
DC5R?
What mods are on the car ATM? (more info would help)

If the ECU has a map or calibration for mods you do not have, dont run this map.
Instead..... open up Kmanager and upload the stock map for you car.

[mountfranklin]

If stock air box then definitely DONT install it.

The injen CAI kit has huge gain difference over stock

Hey the few hours to install the injen is worth it

hahahah first time installing my headers and exhaust... took me and my mate fkn 8hrs ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO we were stuck on some bullshit bolt where the o2 sensor was located.... couldnt get it out for like 2 hrs and was gonna snip the god dam wire in order to remove the exhaust... but we pulled through and found some leverage and ended getting it out... so lucky didnt install injen or else woulda spent fkn the whole night intalling it... LOOOL will be posting injen intake for sale soon... ended up buying it for nothing since i ordered a gruppe me =/

[mountfranklin]

So what car??
DC5R?
What mods are on the car ATM? (more info would help)

If the ECU has a map or calibration for mods you do not have, dont run this map.
Instead..... open up Kmanager and upload the stock map for you car.

mods as for performance wise? just an exhaust with toda headers. ive pretty much made up my mind and im just gonna wait and have the manifold, and kpro and intake installed. my mate did say that i could run gruppe m intake even though its mapped to injen and it wouldnt be a difference? correct me if im wrong.

[knobosaurus]

You should gget it tuned regardless. You don't want to skimp out on some thing which is going to be running youe car. And to be honest, air flow is different between the gruppem and the injen as the gruppem is a ram air intake and the injen is cold air. The ram has an open air supply directly under the windshield whereas the injen has to get air routed through the bbottom of the car. While they are sort of the same, depending on who did the map on your kpro, you can and probaby will run into issues on idle and even wot. Your engine is quite sensitive to mods and if the map is off, then you'll run horribly.

Just my 2c. Anyone feel free to correct me.

[MYDC5R]

This might sound silly but even if you have exactly the same modifications i still wouldn't run the map as each car will respond differently regardless to the engines & mods being the same

[mountfranklin]

This might sound silly but even if you have exactly the same modifications i still wouldn't run the map as each car will respond differently regardless to the engines & mods being the same

You should gget it tuned regardless. You don't want to skimp out on some thing which is going to be running youe car. And to be honest, air flow is different between the gruppem and the injen as the gruppem is a ram air intake and the injen is cold air. The ram has an open air supply directly under the windshield whereas the injen has to get air routed through the bbottom of the car. While they are sort of the same, depending on who did the map on your kpro, you can and probaby will run into issues on idle and even wot. Your engine is quite sensitive to mods and if the map is off, then you'll run horribly.

Just my 2c. Anyone feel free to correct me.

yeah thats true. but i was told by nick (np2can) it would be a straight swap and bolt on if i was install all the parts he had sold me. but yeah will probably get a tune after a few changes

[dnapol]

With the mods all on you CAN run the map however I agree with carl in that an engine's age will play a minor part. Still, the map should be ok but install all the parts first

[mountfranklin]

With the mods all on you CAN run the map however I agree with carl in that an engine's age will play a minor part. Still, the map should be ok but install all the parts first

yeahh just waiting on the gruppe m to arrive and install it. then gonna find someone to install the kpro and manifold.. kpro's easy to do. just the manifold part.. my mates never done one before so dont wanna risk it :/

[MYDC5R]

yeahh just waiting on the gruppe m to arrive and install it. then gonna find someone to install the kpro and manifold.. kpro's easy to do. just the manifold part.. my mates never done one before so dont wanna risk it :/

You going get a tune done aswell or just going with a 'plug n play'?
What side of town you on?