Spoon Caliper

[RtN]

Yes that is true, not saying that it won't fade, just saying 2 pot aids the reduction of fading on any pad in comparison to oem calipers. And yes I honestly bought it for the Blue Spoon Sexyness that none other caliper offers despite the impressive looks of AP racing/Alcon calipers give when you do see it.

[gunpoons]

spoon calipers take oem pads right?
if so, having a massive range of aftermarket pads to choose has to be a major bonus compared to other aftermarket calipers

[cartoon]

Yes they take Oem pads. Still not worth the money

[cordz]

Yes that is true, not saying that it won't fade, just saying 2 pot aids the reduction of fading on any pad in comparison to oem calipers. And yes I honestly bought it for the Blue Spoon Sexyness that none other caliper offers despite the impressive looks of AP racing/Alcon calipers give when you do see it.

They are four pots.

Stocks are two pot, floating caliper design.

[RtN]

woops yes cords you are right spoon = 4 pot, but OEM = single pot sliding caliper. The floating design = pistons on one side only.

[RtN]

spoon calipers take oem pads right?
if so, having a massive range of aftermarket pads to choose has to be a major bonus compared to other aftermarket calipers

this.


Incorporation of oem dc2r pad design and a 4 pot design + sexy blue spoon goodness = 1.4k = well worth the money, you make that back in no time and it will always hold value. Takes literally 20 minutes to put both sides on no fuss, another 10 for proper bleed (engine must be turned on) and you're cheering.

[cordz]

woops yes cords you are right spoon = 4 pot, but OEM = single pot sliding caliper. The floating design = pistons on one side only.

Whoops i forgot OEM was single piston.

But the piston diameter is quite huge, in spite of being a single piston.

[RtN]

yeh the oem piston is ginormous (probably why it brakes pretty good), it still doesnt exert force as even as a 4 pot caliper does. Hence most if not all race cars use fixed calipers.

[cordz]

Just quietly,

i would love Spoon monoblocks on my DC2

BALLER BRAKES

[cartoon]

i sold mine for an upgrade

[Karl]

Gee so many replys. back to my question though. With pad and disc the same would the spoon out preform the OEM or will it just give more pad, disc life as it uses more even force?

[ChargeR]

Gee so many replys. back to my question though. With pad and disc the same would the spoon out preform the OEM or will it just give more pad, disc life as it uses more even force?

It might stop better it might not, the best braking system is one that uses all the tyre traction available throughout the whole braking process. Because there are limits to bias adjustment a simple OEM style braking system will never do this, and it is possible when changing calipers to actually make the bias worse such that you might lock a rear wheel while there is still significant traction for braking available at the front wheels. So the true answer is maybe, particularly as it depends on tyres and a bunch of other things.

Your money is better spent on rotors and pads though. Once you are really stepping over the limits of the stock braking system assess your upgrade options then, as you will have a much better idea of what you want and what questions to ask.

[tinkerbell]

these calipers are half the weight of the OEM ones (and is UNSPRUNG), so if you are looking for an excuse to buy them - that would be it!!!

[ChargeR]

these calipers are half the weight of the OEM ones (and is UNSPRUNG), so if you are looking for an excuse to buy them - that would be it!!!

Good point, so in that case they are more of a handling modification than a brake modification . Also of note is that the heat capacity of aluminium per unit mass is roughly twice that of iron so you are losing unsprung mass but not losing any heat capacity in the system which is good.

Does some kind soul with a set of Spoon twin block calipers and a vernier caliper want to measure the size of the pistons (RtN I am looking at you!) and if someone else with stock DC2R calipers measures the piston in those we can work out the real effect these calipers will have on the braking system.

[tinkerbell]

Twin Block:
240mm x 95mm x 135mm
2.4 kg
Piston Size: 42.85 + 38.18


Monoblock:
250mm x 75mm x 148mm
2.6 kg
Piston Size: 40.46 + 36.12


http://www.ek9.org/forum/brakes/2510...er-weight.html