Which tyre!! DC5R for beginner track user

[amee-reb]

hey guys. i know there are heaps of threads out there on tires and semi slicks and what not. but im about to go out of my mind because i cant seem to work out what tyre is right for me. basically the car is only ever going to be driven to and from the track and rarely on the occasional weekend. iam a beginner on the track though, so im not sure if i should go for a extreme road tyre like the yoko advan ad08 or a more aggressive tyre built specifically for the track like the a048. any input will help me specially personal experience! thanks guys! my car is a dc5R btw.

[knobosaurus]

I've had quite a few mates run Federal 595R-SR Semi Slicks with positive results. Personally I'm still daily-ing my DC5 with hard roadies but if I were to make a switch I'd consider them. Toyo R888 seem decent too but there were some people who found that it had low durability.

[amee-reb]

The thing I'm worried about is having to get heat into them and what not on the track. As Iam a beginner my lines are all over the place and I find it hard to stay consistant. Otherwise I would've went towards the r888 or the advan a048 without hesitation..

[M@lew]

595 RS-R's aren't semi-slick, they're still street.

I run them daily and had no problem getting heat into them when on the track. A048 was a pain to get heat into (although the set I tried were super old).

For heaps of tyre information you can check here

http://forum.clubitr.com.au/showthre...1-Tyres-Thread!!!

and here.

http://forum.clubitr.com.au/showthre...periences-only

[DaRKNT]

Why not get some crap tyres, get really good on them, upgrade one stage rinse and repeat?

[jdm.itr]

Why not get some crap tyres, get really good on them, upgrade one stage rinse and repeat?

There's no point heading to the track with crap tyres. You'll have a better time with a good set

[DaRKNT]

I don't mean $50 tyres haha. Something respectable but not starting on semis is what I meant!

[ChargeR]

Get a good street tyre, if you're that keen on attending a few track days you'll burn through them fairly quickly anyway. Then by the time you've finished your first set of tyres you will know what you should get next. Probably another set of good street tyres.

Consider the BF Goodrich Rival, it's getting pretty good reviews and appears to wear well under hard use from the write ups that I've read. Also Tire Rack should be happy to ship it to Australia unlike some other tyres that they seem to be reluctant to send our way these days.

There's no point heading to the track with crap tyres. You'll have a better time with a good set

I disagree, I've run at the track on all sorts of crap tyres and had a great time and learned something each and every time. Care to share your experience on track on sub-par tyres?

[jdm.itr]

I disagree, I've run at the track on all sorts of crap tyres and had a great time and learned something each and every time. Care to share your experience on track on sub-par tyres?

I haven't had any experience but from seeing my friends etc, I don't mean really good tyres I just mean good tyres, I think I get what you mean by you've learnt lots of different things on the sub par tyres, but wouldn't you want to try squeeze out the most possible out of your car? You won't be able to do that with sub par tyres..

[amee-reb]

M@lew - thanks for the first link! ill read through that thread tonight see what information i can get out of it
ChargeR- yea iv heard all positive about the Rivals. i think its either going to be between them or the ad08's. the Rivals are much cheaper though so i might just get them. and yea im already using tirerack. they have great prices, and i know what you mean about being reluctant. i initially had my eyes set on some toyo r1r's but they wouldn't ship them to Australia.

and guys iv already gone out to the track on cheap Chinese 90$ tires. it was a good learning experience but i definitely want to start experiencing better grip and see what times i can pull of.

[ChargeR]

I haven't had any experience but from seeing my friends etc, I don't mean really good tyres I just mean good tyres, I think I get what you mean by you've learnt lots of different things on the sub par tyres, but wouldn't you want to try squeeze out the most possible out of your car? You won't be able to do that with sub par tyres..

I'm not recommending Nankangs either, but for a beginner one tyre is much the same as another, anything marketed as being somewhat sporty will do.

Squeezing the most out of a car is independent of the tyre. If I hypothetically can drive like Vettel and get within a few hundredths of a second of what the car is truly capable of on a cheaper tyre, I'd still have maximised the performance of that car with that tyre. There'll be always be some other guy with more money for mods or tyres, why not start on something cheaper and learn just as much and have just as much fun.

For a more literal example, the tyres on my Micra were $96 each and I have run around 15 track days on them, a few skidpan days and more than 60,000 km on the street and they are only now nearing the end of their life. Over this time I have improved my Winton laptime by 7 seconds with no modifications at all to the car and there is still a little more time left in the car. And I loved the challenge of eking out every last little bit of grip these tyres had.

[jdm.itr]

I'm not recommending Nankangs either, but for a beginner one tyre is much the same as another, anything marketed as being somewhat sporty will do.

Squeezing the most out of a car is independent of the tyre. If I hypothetically can drive like Vettel and get within a few hundredths of a second of what the car is truly capable of on a cheaper tyre, I'd still have maximised the performance of that car with that tyre. There'll be always be some other guy with more money for mods or tyres, why not start on something cheaper and learn just as much and have just as much fun.

For a more literal example, the tyres on my Micra were $96 each and I have run around 15 track days on them, a few skidpan days and more than 60,000 km on the street and they are only now nearing the end of their life. Over this time I have improved my Winton laptime by 7 seconds with no modifications at all to the car and there is still a little more time left in the car. And I loved the challenge of eking out every last little bit of grip these tyres had.

Ahh, yes, I get what your trying to say, you've had the experience so I guess your word is better than mine haha, thanks for clearing everything up!

[isaac]

How bout Hankook RS3's? You've seen them on my car. Awesome sticky on the track too!!

[ChargeR]

Ahh, yes, I get what your trying to say, you've had the experience so I guess your word is better than mine haha, thanks for clearing everything up!

I didn't mean to browbeat you into agreeing . I just often see people think they need to have super sticky tyres, or X modification to go to the track, and from my experience that's not the case and I personally regret getting too aggressive tyres too early on in my track adventures.

How bout Hankook RS3's? You've seen them on my car. Awesome sticky on the track too!!

Yep RS3s would definitely suit. OP could also consider Dunlop ZII, Federal RS-R as mentioned above, Kumho KU36, Bridgestone RE11, or even Bridgestone RE002 if you want to step down to something more street oriented.

[eskimo_firefighter]

Just a suggestion, when I started tracking in my old EP3 all the tyres I've ever used on that car were second hand street tyres such as the re001, re050a and the re01r just to rack up some experience.