04 Wrx Sti

[scheung]

Something definitely wrong with your butt dyno...LOL

Yeah.....need to take a few layers of fat off it.....i have gain some since i got it......dats probably y the DC5R feels faster

[BF]

Ok stuff my butt dyno and let’s get some facts then. An STI usually gets mid to high 13s with a hardcore launch, with a normal launch they do around flat to low 14s. My car has some basic breathing mods also clutch and fly, I haven’t run it down the quarter yet, but with semi stripped out and around 117kw atw, low to flat 14 is achievable. So I don’t think my butt dyno is way off.

I just want you to know, that that statement wasn't directed at you in particular. Uncalibrated butt dynos pervade this and many other forums.

That said, using your own numbers, there is still quite a big difference between a flat 14 and a 13.5 sec pass.

[xtercii]

That’s right butt dyno is not accurate can only be used for fun.

I also mentioned WRXs get good time because of their sling shot launching ability, that cuts the time quite significantly, and Hondas can’t do launches like that. But when driving in motion rexy will no longer have that advantage and both cars could be quite even.

[IcemaN]

turbos are cheating... that is all.
iv been in the my06 sti, with 4 ppl in the car the power feels amazing. yes they do have alot of power but im sure its also to do with the feel you get in your ass from the awd. fwd's imo always feel slower then rwd's and awd's. turbo awd is deff on my to own list one day.
i agree with xtercii take away the subarus awd launch capability and you left with a car that isnt amazingly fast.
first post by dc2-r says running stock boost of 14psi. that seems awfully high. i know the new sti's are running around 7psi and thats been lowered due to the new 2.5ltr engine, but they wouldnt half it.

[scheung]

turbos are cheating... that is all.
first post by dc2-r says running stock boost of 14psi. that seems awfully high.

Evo stock boost peaks to 18psi........FYI

Yeah.....turbo is cheating..........but S2000 was tooooooo expensive

[BF]

Don't make the mistake of saying without... a car wouldnt be xyz . For example, without awd a wrx is slow or without a turbo skyline isn't fast, because the fact of the matter is the car has that feature. It is just silly to say such things.

You'd all laugh if I said the dc2r and the dc5r are fast, but take their wheels off and they are nothing. While a crude example, it is a simple extension of the same reasoning.

[Jingers]

The "feels" you guys use is excatly that. In real world terms what you feel isn't really the end result. Ie you feel your car is faster then sti but in real world it might not be faster.

But having said that, the other interesting thing is.

All you go by is feel, ie if you feel that this bread is better then the other then this bread is. ie if you feel your car is faster then the sti, then your car has give you higher excitment level then the other car.

In this way your car "is" faster then the sti i guess.

[scheung]

Example most ppl use would be the S15 and DC5R...both make 147kw.....

Anyways....kinda off topic here pplz

[BF]

Yes it is and I'm not sure what ur providing an example of.

Back on topic.

[freakygeek]

turbos are cheating... that is all.

In the same way that VTEC is cheating.

iv been in the my06 sti, with 4 ppl in the car the power feels amazing. yes they do have alot of power but im sure its also to do with the feel you get in your ass from the awd. fwd's imo always feel slower then rwd's and awd's. turbo awd is deff on my to own list one day.

Been in a turbo Honda before? AWD causes you to get a feel in your ass?

i agree with xtercii take away the subarus awd launch capability and you left with a car that isnt amazingly fast.
first post by dc2-r says running stock boost of 14psi. that seems awfully high. i know the new sti's are running around 7psi and thats been lowered due to the new 2.5ltr engine, but they wouldnt half it.

New MY06 STi runs more like 15psi according to articles on mrtrally.

~ Factory ECU was remapped with a more aggressive level of tune to take advantage of the additional air flow and efficiency made possible with the full exhaust system in place. This included further changes to the fuel, ignition timing, active cam control settings and boost control, with peak target boost now changed to around 17 PSi (around 2 PSi more than standard OEM settings).

[GoldCoastDC5R]

I find that STi's "feel" extremely fast because they have that turbo/boost rush that puts you back in the seat but then you are changing gears quite often and the speedo doesn't really fly through the numbers.

The thing that decieves most ppl with a quick NA car is the smoothness of the power and they don't actually realise how quick they are going. It doesn't have that sudden rush of what seems like ridiculous speed that turbo cars have.

Mate is getting a 06 STi in the next couple of weeks so we'll see how it goes then His previous 02 STi with boost and exhaust was on par and a little bit quicker at high speed than my dc5r prior to cams, although his car felt a hell of a lot faster than mine. Off the line i have no chance against a AWD tho (

[Ljubo (LJ)]

My mates STI boost starts kicking in very low (2500-3000rpm) and makes big power in low to mid range but less at top end, it's very good for every day street driving, what he told me it's because of manifold, it's tuned by lenght so car doesn't sound like WRX at all but pulls like crazy

[tinkerbell]

not really on topic, but the thing about NA Honda is that around a track, they can be as fast as turbo AWD cars...

the race track is an interesting place to discover how car and driver "connect"...

[fueltank]

not really on topic, but the thing about NA Honda is that around a track, they can be as fast as turbo AWD cars...

the race track is an interesting place to discover how car and driver "connect"...

Depends what track.

Point the wheels where you want to go, floor it, and BOOM...

Sounds like the EVO too

My butt dyno tells me the ride on mower is faster than the DC2R... must be the smell from the grass clippings.

[tofu]

I have driven the 04 STi, could have bought it too for $35k, but besides being a fast car, it doesn't feel suited to me.
If you feel good in the driver's seat, and the car is naturally fast, then of course you will think it's a "nice car"

but if it's just fast, and you don't really feel like you fit or belong in the driver's seat/position of that car, then you may think otherwise about it...hence why i didn't buy a STi.