ok heres goes.. my first attempt on a review.. please go easy on me..
Project Mu Type NR Brake Pads
Since I purchased my car I had to change my front brake pads to Bendix Ultimate. This was just a temporary OEM replacement which seemed fine for street. For 150 compared to 200-250 for OEM you can’t complain.
I did one or two max action (autokahana) events with my stock brake setup and it seemed good enough for someone of my driving skill at the time (yes.. its still sh*t). So I really couldn’t tell the diff if this was good or not.
6mths after changing to Bendix brake pads I went to a Honda Sports Car Club WA lunch. We went up into the hills and there was lots of gravel, dust and dirt on the road. Since that weekend, I got a lot of grinding and squeaking noise at the front brakes. I thought that after all these events of hard driving I must have gone through my front brake pads. So I ordered the Project Mu Type NR. I was going to go for B-Spec but there was not much price difference so I ended up going for the NR. These are rated from 0-650c.
After changing to the Type NR… wow.. there was a little bit more bite.. its not like how black_spirit would put it “bites as hard as an angry pit bull”.. probably as snappy as a jack russell who forgot her handbag. I was impressed and could really tell the difference when I went on my next autokahana event.
For the first few months there were lots a squeaking like a hardcore race car. I pulled into a busy airport and my car was squeaking like some sh*t bucket and every1 started staring at my car….a bit embarrassing. I’m now at 50% of these pads and all the squeaking has gone.
I found with the OEM rotors, when braking at high speed (130-200km) and for long duration I would hear loud grinding noise. A friend of mine advised me that this is the hard compound eating into the rotor.
After having these for about 8mths on my OEM rotors, they chewed the sh*t out of them. So I ended up having to order some rotors which will be discussed later.
Rating: 6 ½ out of 10
Good money spent.
Endless Super 6 Slot Rotor
After waiting for a while for Centrax to get the order from Japan, I finally got to install these babies yesterday
My original OEM ones
I was deciding between
OEM – appx $250ea
DBA 4000 series - $265ea (from memory)
DBA 5000 series* - $465ea
Endless Tri Slot**
Endless Super 6 slot**
Project Mu 2 piece rotor SCR Pro? - $1000 pair
*all are one piece except DBA 5000 series
** check with centrax autos for latest pricing as they have recently changed.
My Mechanic at the time (tony flood motorsport) suggested I don’t go for the two piece DBA 5000 as the aluminium hat rubs against the disc and makes a terrible noise. He suggested DBA 4000 if I was on a budget, but would prefer me to go for OEM then manually slot them himself. He advised that Honda make pretty good rotors from factory. From his experience, his customer’s that are on a budget tend to go with Endless VN brake pads and DBA rotors. He proceeded to advise that this is a very poor choice of combo as the pads are not made for these rotors and one outlasts the other very quickly. (I forgot which one he mentioned). But due to the price of endless rotors they always tend to go for DBA.
After a lot of emails going to different distributors, I went with Endless. The before/after sales service was excellent and they were always on the ball with answering my questions/emails. I wasn’t too keen with the Project Mu because there wasn’t much info on it plus I was not confident with the distributors support regarding the fitment on the AUDM DC5R.
So I ended up with the Endless Super 6 slot! I haven’t had the opportunity to try it on the track (due February 2nd 2007 – keep posted ). I have only tried emergency braking once to avoid getting caught by a red light camera. This time, there was no deep grinding noise from the brake pad eating into the rotor. All I heard was complaining from my girlfriend and seeing stuff flying from the backseat to the front of the car. I don’t know if this is a placebo effect, but I seem to have a little bit more brake response. This maybe due to the fact that I have more rotor and less travel for the caliper.
I’m about 50% through my Project Mu brake pads. I’m thinking of trying an endless compound next and see how that goes.
Will keep you guys updated when I take these babies onto the track!
Rating: 5 out of 10* pending testing on track
Not very bang for buck for street use, but worth it if you have high performance brake pads and your car see’s the track.
Thanks to Steven from Centrax for the excellent service & support!! tony from tony flood motorsport for advice, -Ad- from this forum for hooking me up, black_spirit for hearing me whinge to him everyday about my car issues (you may have the skills but i can now brake faster then you!) and tanghy for sourcing the brakepads.
- angus
Project Mu Type NR Brake Pads
Since I purchased my car I had to change my front brake pads to Bendix Ultimate. This was just a temporary OEM replacement which seemed fine for street. For 150 compared to 200-250 for OEM you can’t complain.
I did one or two max action (autokahana) events with my stock brake setup and it seemed good enough for someone of my driving skill at the time (yes.. its still sh*t). So I really couldn’t tell the diff if this was good or not.
6mths after changing to Bendix brake pads I went to a Honda Sports Car Club WA lunch. We went up into the hills and there was lots of gravel, dust and dirt on the road. Since that weekend, I got a lot of grinding and squeaking noise at the front brakes. I thought that after all these events of hard driving I must have gone through my front brake pads. So I ordered the Project Mu Type NR. I was going to go for B-Spec but there was not much price difference so I ended up going for the NR. These are rated from 0-650c.
After changing to the Type NR… wow.. there was a little bit more bite.. its not like how black_spirit would put it “bites as hard as an angry pit bull”.. probably as snappy as a jack russell who forgot her handbag. I was impressed and could really tell the difference when I went on my next autokahana event.
For the first few months there were lots a squeaking like a hardcore race car. I pulled into a busy airport and my car was squeaking like some sh*t bucket and every1 started staring at my car….a bit embarrassing. I’m now at 50% of these pads and all the squeaking has gone.
I found with the OEM rotors, when braking at high speed (130-200km) and for long duration I would hear loud grinding noise. A friend of mine advised me that this is the hard compound eating into the rotor.
After having these for about 8mths on my OEM rotors, they chewed the sh*t out of them. So I ended up having to order some rotors which will be discussed later.
Rating: 6 ½ out of 10
Good money spent.
Endless Super 6 Slot Rotor
After waiting for a while for Centrax to get the order from Japan, I finally got to install these babies yesterday
My original OEM ones
I was deciding between
OEM – appx $250ea
DBA 4000 series - $265ea (from memory)
DBA 5000 series* - $465ea
Endless Tri Slot**
Endless Super 6 slot**
Project Mu 2 piece rotor SCR Pro? - $1000 pair
*all are one piece except DBA 5000 series
** check with centrax autos for latest pricing as they have recently changed.
My Mechanic at the time (tony flood motorsport) suggested I don’t go for the two piece DBA 5000 as the aluminium hat rubs against the disc and makes a terrible noise. He suggested DBA 4000 if I was on a budget, but would prefer me to go for OEM then manually slot them himself. He advised that Honda make pretty good rotors from factory. From his experience, his customer’s that are on a budget tend to go with Endless VN brake pads and DBA rotors. He proceeded to advise that this is a very poor choice of combo as the pads are not made for these rotors and one outlasts the other very quickly. (I forgot which one he mentioned). But due to the price of endless rotors they always tend to go for DBA.
After a lot of emails going to different distributors, I went with Endless. The before/after sales service was excellent and they were always on the ball with answering my questions/emails. I wasn’t too keen with the Project Mu because there wasn’t much info on it plus I was not confident with the distributors support regarding the fitment on the AUDM DC5R.
So I ended up with the Endless Super 6 slot! I haven’t had the opportunity to try it on the track (due February 2nd 2007 – keep posted ). I have only tried emergency braking once to avoid getting caught by a red light camera. This time, there was no deep grinding noise from the brake pad eating into the rotor. All I heard was complaining from my girlfriend and seeing stuff flying from the backseat to the front of the car. I don’t know if this is a placebo effect, but I seem to have a little bit more brake response. This maybe due to the fact that I have more rotor and less travel for the caliper.
I’m about 50% through my Project Mu brake pads. I’m thinking of trying an endless compound next and see how that goes.
Will keep you guys updated when I take these babies onto the track!
Rating: 5 out of 10* pending testing on track
Not very bang for buck for street use, but worth it if you have high performance brake pads and your car see’s the track.
Thanks to Steven from Centrax for the excellent service & support!! tony from tony flood motorsport for advice, -Ad- from this forum for hooking me up, black_spirit for hearing me whinge to him everyday about my car issues (you may have the skills but i can now brake faster then you!) and tanghy for sourcing the brakepads.
- angus
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