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    #16
    Soo many different settings. I might try front 2mm toe out and rear 1mm toe out. Is this a good option?
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      #17
      that would be an "quite aggressive" set-up dc2rrrr

      will create good turn-in, but will slow you down on the straight...
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        #18
        What is the best option then? I am planning on getting it done today for thursday. No dodge setting just so you can beat me either. Haha
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          #19
          what are your tyres/springs/shocks etc?
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            #20
            Originally posted by tinkerbell View Post
            what are your tyres/springs/shocks etc?
            Toyo r888 tyres cusco zero s coilovers. May be putting zeal 14k coilovers in front just for thurs.
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              #21
              so ur sussy is not too hardcore,

              i reckon a lil bit of toe out (e.g. 1.5 total toe) and keep the rears close to neutral...
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                #22
                Originally posted by tinkerbell View Post
                so ur sussy is not too hardcore,

                i reckon a lil bit of toe out (e.g. 1.5 total toe) and keep the rears close to neutral...
                I would suggest this too.

                It really depends on the feel of your car at the settings you've chosen. Alignment is a way to "enhance" or fine tune your chosen characteristics. I'm not sure you'd actually feel a great deal of difference with minor changes. However without Data, it's really hard to tell you what will work.

                1.5mm toe out F should give you good turn in and exit and possibly increase your contact Patch during cornering.

                0mm toe in R - keeps it nice and straight (for braking). Toe out will accentuate the oversteer.

                I think jase runs toe out F as well. It's all about starting somewhere!!
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by euGeR View Post

                  I think jase runs toe out F as well. It's all about starting somewhere!!
                  i dont know what i run, and to be honest i dont really care, i give the car to east coast suspension and say "make it goes fast round corners" and i come back after a few hours, part with my cash and drive away...

                  i really cant remember asking what toe i run, i know i am running -4.5degree camber.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by BlackDC2 View Post
                    i dont know what i run, and to be honest i dont really care, i give the car to east coast suspension and say "make it goes fast round corners" and i come back after a few hours, part with my cash and drive away...

                    i really cant remember asking what toe i run, i know i am running -4.5degree camber.
                    It's ok mate, I know for you because I always ask East coast about your set up (checking your configuration sheet) then make adjustments to mine accordingly as mine isn't as hardcore haha

                    Yours is basically based on the GTP set up
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                      #25
                      nice thread!

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                        #26
                        remember that with toe out/in and camber, the tyre pressure is critical for grip on turn in and for power out, especially for 14kgs on front!

                        I always try to use a higher pressure and less toe because it makes me feel that the car can turn in easier, however this is only an amatuers view, so take from it what u will

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                          #27
                          What pressures do you run (also what size/type of rubber)?
                          Originally posted by TODA RACING Aust - Adrian
                          In your case, clearly you have a combination that is bordering on crap...

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                            #28
                            35psi 205 50 15 toyo r888 nearly worn out.
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                              #29
                              35 psi hot?

                              i used to run 35 hot in my old RA1's with good results,

                              but my new R888's i think i was running at 34 hot at wakie, and i will try them even cooler at EC this week, like 32/33 hot to see what happens...
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                                #30
                                remember guys tyre temperatures are key! you can adjust all your settings to suit by measuring the tyre temperatures.

                                first of all you need to know you are running the proper pressures. this is how you can measure!

                                1. after running your car measure the tyre temps in three places - outside middle and inside
                                2. average the two outside and inside temps

                                if the average of the two outside temps is greater than the middle temp you are running too little pressure
                                if the average of the two outer temps is less than the middle you are running too much
                                if the average equals the middle you are running the right pressure

                                NOW you can adjust your settings! its all common sense!

                                now lets say you figured you are running the optimum tyre pressure. lets take for example the front left tyre

                                the temperatures are say (made up numbers)

                                20 - 15 - 10
                                out - mid - in

                                you are running the optimum pressures but you are using too much of the outside of the tyre. normally you can increase the negative camber or increase caster etc to balance it out. maybe stiffer springs or anti-roll bars to limit roll.

                                remember: the goal of set up is to get the maximum of your tyres.

                                what you want is the following for all four tyres

                                15-15-15

                                does this make sense to you?

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