How much camber can I achieve?

[Lemmiwinks]

In the process of cambering my front wheels in on my DC5R, and I want to know how much camber I can achieve with stock tie rods. I would've played around with the tie rods (assuming they can be adjusted shorter), but I ran out of time today .

I'm going to have to run a fair bit of camber, maybe 4-5 degrees.

Would I be able to achieve 4-5 degrees of camber at the front with stock tie rods without a huge amount of toe in?

Or will I have to buy some shorter tie rods?

[plAythiNG]

I did, i got -4.7 up fornt on stock tie rods.. i cannot remember what my toe settings were though.

[Lemmiwinks]

Great!

To adjust it, all I do is undo the tie rod ends and screw it in more right?

Also, would it be a bad idea to invert the tie rod ends to minimize the angle the tie rods are at once you've lowered your car?

[M@lew]

Doesn't it depend what coilovers you're running too? And the specs of your wheels?

[stevan]

Yes depends on Length and angle of steering arm on the coilovers. Can get roughly 2-2.5 degrees using camber plates before max ing tie rods on "standard" coilovers and about the same using 2 pairs of camber bolts.

[Lemmiwinks]

Running BC BR's. 18" x 9.5" +22's. Just need to camber the fronts in a little more without adding heaps of toe in.

I can achieve the required amount of camber with what I've got now, but with the tie rods as they are now, I get a fair bit of toe in.


BC BR's
2 ingalls camber bolts per strut

[M@lew]

For me with the stock tie rods and 2 bolts per strut with BC BR I max'd out around 2.5 - 2.8 depending on my height. With Todd's Tie Rods I'm maxed out at -3.5.

[Lemmiwinks]

Alright, thanks! will play around with the tie rods tomorrow and see where it takes me!

[Lemmiwinks]

Adjusted the tie rods today, shortened them as much as possible. Has improved the toe angle a fair bit. Still a tad of toe in though. Going to buy some inverted tie rod end's to minimize the tie rod angle. T1R's any good? Or is there a better brand out there?

Will post pics of my car once i wash it

[stevan]

Not many great things about t1r or any inverted tie end rods for that matter, most people have theirs develop play within a year in the helm joint, being exposed doesn't help the joint either.

If you are changing tie rods look into the relocation bracket? Would love to know if those are half decent, steering response and feel suck on lowered dc5.

Hmm does a tie rod angle that is much different from 90 degrees to the strut mean you have a larger turning circle?

[Lemmiwinks]

Yeh. All the inverted ends I've seen don't have a rubber boot covering the joint, being exposed to dust and sands would probably seize the ball joint!

Will have a look into those relocation brackets as the inverted rod ends are pretty over priced for what they are..