Wheel nut fail

[cordz]

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So today i decided i was going to have a crack at painting my calipers (for extra KW's of course) so after a strenuous time loosening the wheel nuts on the right side i proceed to the left. I was using a short wheel nut wrench from a toyota yaris, attached to the inverted stud adapter provided by the previous owner.
As i proceeded to loosen the nuts, i had a really hard time doing so, requiring me to exert quite alot of force before the nuts would come loose with a horrible screech and bang. i applied WD40 to the nuts and still i noticed progressively the adapter warping as i did each nut. Nevertheless i proceeded, then on the left side, after a significant heave and ho i felt the familiar crack, screech and bang. But this one felt somewhat incomplete and after i looked down and saw it, i had broken the wheel nut. . i maintained that if i got all the other wheel nuts off and the car jacked i could try snap the wheel nut and pull it off by the wheel itself (bad idea)
Anyways moving on to the next wheel nut the screech, bang and crack resulted in a broken adapter. I was pissed. i had shitty equipment, tools and now a broken wheel nut and adapter.

That brings me to you guys....

how the hell am i going to get these off??

More so, i ordered some new wheel nuts tonight (muteki cold forged steel) and should be getting them in a few weeks and rid me of these SHITTY nuts, but now i don't have a adapter to get them off and neither did my Auto store. Its a 12mm hex insert ( i swear the one i had was 11mm, it had so much play) . Anyone point me in a direction??

Is there anything else i should be doing or looking out for?

[gunpoons]

f@#k! you poor bastard,
this is the kinda shit that usually happens to me.
not sure on a solution though mate, easyouts and the like would stuggle to i'd say if you where having that much trouble getting them off with a standard wheel spanner

[MYDC5R]

Get a locknut breaker and snap the thing off....
Im sure others will suggest something better though...
badluck dude

[cordz]

gunpoons, i don't know whether its that theyre seized or i just didn't have enough wrench. But yeh, this is why i wish the car came with goodies from brands in your sig. These nuts were obviously on special at Kmart.

myDC5R, i doubt there would be a female plug for a lock nut breaker? doesn't help the lodged adapter either

[DC2R8D]

hahaa doosh louis ur just too strong... anyways! like i said earlier today, as for the lodged key, tap the nut with something heavy and metal ( i think u call them a hammer) gently to try get friction to take place, like i said similar physics to how u get a steering wheel off... just give it a try. If i have to come to the rescue on tues/wed (my only days off) ill be cranky coz those days are set aside for the exhaust install also.

As for the cracked nut, my guess is, its already half broken, so just completely break it?

[DC2R8D]

pretty basic n crude vid but u get the drift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTKtR...eature=related

this ones much better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUUy...1&feature=fvwp

[freakygeek]

You appear to have a fair bit of wheelnut protruding. I'd soak the wheelnut with a decent penetrative lubricant (Such as ZEP, not WD40 as it is not that great at this job) then get a really decent set of vise grips and see if you can budge the wheelnut with them.

If not, hammer and chisel or cut a slot in the wheelnut then using the chisel, gradually undo the wheelnut a few taps at a time.

Bitch of a job, but it doesn't look impossible.

[freakygeek]

Then after you get it off, throw the wheelnuts as far away as physically possible and buy new ones! LOL

Also, copper spray on the wheel studs prevents them seizing up again.

[cordz]

You appear to have a fair bit of wheelnut protruding. I'd soak the wheelnut with a decent penetrative lubricant (Such as ZEP, not WD40 as it is not that great at this job) then get a really decent set of vise grips and see if you can budge the wheelnut with them.

If not, hammer and chisel or cut a slot in the wheelnut then using the chisel, gradually undo the wheelnut a few taps at a time.

Bitch of a job, but it doesn't look impossible.

You mean like a hand held vice grip?

With the chisel method do you mean tap through the wheel nut to break it in half? or literally unscrew the wheel nut few taps at a time?

Ill be making sure i grab some ZEP for the rear nuts, dont want anymore headaches!

Then after you get it off, throw the wheelnuts as far away as physically possible and buy new ones! LOL

Also, copper spray on the wheel studs prevents them seizing up again.

Copper spray will be given! Thanks heaps for your advice freakygeek

[freakygeek]

You mean like a hand held vice grip?

Yep, a decent quality set just might be able to get enough grip to turn the nut.

With the chisel method do you mean tap through the wheel nut to break it in half? or literally unscrew the wheel nut few taps at a time?

No, just try to unscrew the nut a few taps at a time. Once you get it 'cracked' you should be able to use the vice grips to make the process faster.

Ill be making sure i grab some ZEP for the rear nuts, dont want anymore headaches!

This is the stuff :-

Just make sure you wash any excess off your brakes before you set off - use a brake parts cleaner product to ensure no greasy residue is left there.

Copper spray will be given! Thanks heaps for your advice freakygeek

[cartoon]

also try a pipe wrench mate. typically used in plumbing as they grip pipes and allow you to losen them. If you need leverage get a hollow bar to put over the handel (longer the bar less effort you need).

either way you should apply plenty of penertration fluid and let it sit. try spraying it in every few hours and let it sit for a day

[e240]

Weld an extension onto the nut and then take it off...

[cordz]

Just an update on the wheel nuts from hell.

So I managed to make some progress the other day, by wedging a flat screw driver head in the tiny gaps of the male insert that was stuck in the wheel nut and tapping it gently, it rotated the stuck adapter until it was unlodged. The piece was now freely floating in the wheel nut hole, and only needed a decent magnet to pull it out.

But as i am too impatient and lazy to source such a sufficient magnet, i tried to wedge it out with a flat screw driver head, sort of pulling it towards me by levering the screw driver downwards. Cue karma! the screw driver tip snaped off, wedging itself like a door stop between the insert and wheel nut, making it all a nice snug fit.

So i ignored the problem untill DC2R8D came to the rescue, maintaining his bam bam style mechanics which involves always whacking something hard with a hammer, he managed to dislodge the infernal piece of metal and placed me closer to winning the battle with these crap wheel nuts.

now:

- I obtained some deep penetrative lubricant spray
- I ordered new Muteki, quality wheel nuts

Once i receive the new wheel nuts, ill be spraying all these crappy ones with the lubricant, taking them off, throwing them as far as i can, then installing my new muteki's with some anti-seize.

All i have to worry about now is solving this problem:

[Addictions]

have you considered snapping the thing off? =\

[cordz]

how do you suggest trying that?