how do you find out that an EP3 is from EDM or JDM

[x0000]

hi, i'm looking to buy an ep3 in melb instead importing from jap as the YEN r way 2 high up at the top....

but i just can't figure out how do you know the car is from UK or JAP(i mean the JDM one) , i know they r all originally from UK!!

becos the JDM has more power that's y i'm after it..

thanks

[VTECMACHINE]

Aren't they all the same, produced in England. A friend has an EP3 which was imported from Japan, and has the UK flag on the back.

[x0000]

power out put are difference JDM has 158kw EDM has 147 or 149kw i can't remember...

i know the differences but just can't figure out how to find out

[VTECMACHINE]

I always thought everything was identical, apart from the ECU tune, due to different fuels.

[Chi]

I always thought everything was identical, apart from the ECU tune, due to different fuels.

Well you thought wrong.

Engine is different in the JDM. ( Better cams, compression, IM, Headers, etc )

suspension is more firm and Im sure the sway bars are bigger on the JDM model.

There are also minor interior differences as well.

So I wouldnt call them indentical.


The UK flag is to say the model/chasis was designed in the UK ( dunno which cock head had to put that on )

[tofu]

i know that the UK EP3R does not have the recaros

[03DC5R]

im pritty sure that if it has the UK flag on the back then its the JDM model...dont think the UKDM has the flag

[Chi]

im pritty sure that if it has the UK flag on the back then its the JDM model...dont think the UKDM has the flag

Badges aren't hard to remove.


Nice work Di !

[Philip Lee]

i'd say the best way to find if it's JDM or not is the VIN.

JDM ones are EP3-1xxxxxx.

[x0000]

taken from the UK Civic Type R forum:

What are the differences between the a JDM and a UK CTR.

The differences between the JDM and the Euro CTR are quite significant
though it has to be said.

I'll confirm certain bits that the UK doesn't get as standard with a *

SAFETY EQUIPMENT
- For driver's seat & SRS air bag system for submarine seat
- The EBD (the electronic control braking effort distribution system)
- ABS (4 wheel anti lock brake system)
- LED high mount stop lamp
- Bumper beam & door beam
- The front 3 point type overload limiters you attach, the pre- tensioner -
the ELR seat belt
- Rear 3 point type ELR/ALR (child seat fixed mechanism) seat belt
- ISO FIX corresponding child seat fixed private bar (rear left and right
seat)

COMFORT EQUIPMENT
- EPS (electromotive power steering) + VGR (variable steering gear ratio)
- Tinted Windows (low Ultraviolet)

INTERIOR
- Recaro Corporation make bucket seat (front) *
- Leather 3 spoke steering wheel by MOMO *
- Aluminum shift knob (instrument panel shift)
- Aluminum pitch center panel
- TYPE R console emblem
- Red floor mat & door lining *
- Foot rest (driver's seat side)
- Cup holder (front / rear)
- 6: 4 divided yes falling down type rear seats

EXTERIOR
- Aero forum bumper (front / rear)
- Large-sized tail gate spoiler
- Body same color side sill garnish
- TYPE R private HONDA emblem (front / rear)
- TYPE R emblem (front / rear) / decare (side)
- U.K. Emblem (rear) *
- Red engine head cover
- Mist mechanism attaching intermittent front wiper
- Body same color electromotive remote control door mirror
- Micro antenna

TIRE/WHEELS
- High grip tire (205/45r17 84w)
- Private aluminum wheel (17×7JJ)

OPTIONAL COMFORT PACK (sold with 99% of JDM cars)
- Air Conditioning (Manual)
- Power windows
- Power door lock (tail gate gearing)
- Radio wave type key less entry system (welcome lamp functional attaching)
- Map lamp
- Rear shelf
- HID headlight (high / low beam) *
- Privacy glass (rear quarter / tail gate) *
- Washer attaching intermittent rear wiper

OTHER:
Travelling-related mechanism
- Private hard setting suspension
- Torque response type helical LSD *
- Front large diameter ventilated disk brake
- Rear disk brake
- Strut tower bar (front / rear)
- Thicker Anti-Roll Bars.

ENGINE:
K20A Specification *
Peak Power Output (kW [ PS ] /rpm) - 158 [ 215 ] /8,000 *
Peak Torque Output (N m [ kg m ] /rpm) - 202 [ 20.6 ] /7,000 *

The JDM engine has an uprated engine containing JDM springs, valves, pistons
etc plus it does indeed have a smaller cat.
Different gear ratios and mapping in the Japanese car, along with a
different intake and exhaust manifolds as well.

Also, the JDM car has a different wiring loom , so many electrical bits,
like the HID lights, won't just 'plug in' to a UK CTR.

so from what my understanding here, there is no significant difference by just looking from the outside.

because the EDM (uk version) can also option the recaro seat and the "momo steering" <---not sure about the steering

beside that you have to look deeply inside this car to c whether they have the LSD install or not......?????

or the only way to find out which version is from the VIN (easiest way)???

[nareyan]

Here ya go, there's a thread on Ephatch.com with a helpful vid covering this topic:

UKDM Type R vs. JDM Type R

BTW, one nice clue is that if it's Champ White then it's JDM.

[tinkerbell]

or the only way to find out which version is from the VIN (easiest way)???

if what the guy (philip) said above you is true (we have no reason to doubt) then the VIN number IS the easiest way...

[ChargeR]

I have a stupid question. Is there really going to be many UKDM EP3Rs in Australia? I would have thought it not really economical to import one from there unless it was a private import.

[tinkerbell]

quiet you!

we all learned stuff here today!

[tinkerbell]

why not?

it is just sea freight?

currencies are all farked too... so what is the reason?