ARC - Civic Type R

[FunkyR]

Sweet! Hmmm I wonder if it's S-AWD? (prob not) a Mugen 2L turbo engine would be a nice thing (hint hint to the Mugen engineers)

http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car...w/2912493.aspx

[m0nty]

It'll be an F2 Class car, or whatever it's called these days. Under 2000cc NA and FWD. Still super quick though.

[lukits01]

the parts list are to drool over

http://www.jasmotorsport.com/Civic%2...v.,15,2007.pdf
http://www.jasmotorsport.com/PARTS%2...arch152008.pdf

[saya]

that's awesome. Parts list is mad =D

[TeMp]

Is it possible to get a FD2 race car over here? But probally be cheaper to use a FN2 instead.

Interesting note that they use a more agressive pads (DS3000) and a softer one (DS2500) on the rear.

[m0nty]

Interesting note that they use a more agressive pads (DS3000) and a softer one (DS2500) on the rear.

Trail braking = instant death in a rally car. It's a sure fire way to introduce your back end to a tree. You want most of your braking force on the front.

[lukits01]

Seems like Honda has positioned the FD2 to be a circuit oriented car
while the FN2 gets to do rallies.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4nqNv5pA4kE

[m0nty]

Seems like Honda has positioned the FD2 to be a circuit oriented car
while the FN2 gets to do rallies.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4nqNv5pA4kE

The FN2 races very competitvely in the BTCC though. It still features in circuit racing. It's exposure to the worldwide market is much larger than the FD2. The FD2 is only sold in Asia where as the rest of the world gets the FN2.

[lukits01]

well technically... the BTCC uses FK2 (4 door hatch version of the FN2)
but yea totally forgot about that one

[TeMp]

Trail braking = instant death in a rally car. It's a sure fire way to introduce your back end to a tree. You want most of your braking force on the front.

Never mentioned anything about trail breaking. More concerned with the genearl brake balance.

I know the debate about either using same pads all around or using more aggressive pair in front wil always rage on but like I said, interesting note, that a race car has gone down this path.

[m0nty]

Never mentioned anything about trail breaking. More concerned with the genearl brake balance.

I know the debate about either using same pads all around or using more aggressive pair in front wil always rage on but like I said, interesting note, that a race car has gone down this path.

Wouldn't the same be said for the entire setup? Alot of cars run big 6 pot setups at the front and retain standard rear with upgraded pads. For the car to have different pads is hardly surprising, nor cutting edge.

[narada]

there is more weight over the front wheels, particularly under braking... thats probably the most common reason for the brake pad setup

if you make the brake balance 50:50 front to rear, you will most likely lock up the rear brakes because the weight of the car will throw itself forward meaning you can over brake the rear end

only some mid engined cars have 50:50 brake force distribution, and in some rear engined cars I have seen slight rear biased setups

[narada]

oh another reason, probably more true to this situation would be that the rear brakes dont get used to the extent of the fronts, and the DS2500 will heat up faster than the DS3000... that way, both front and rear brakes can be in operating temperature when driving

[VTECMACHINE]

Nice posts Narada

[lukits01]

Group N Rally car Build diary
Check out the coilovers! and cage, and pretty much everything else
http://motorstars.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Pro...projekti+-001/

and FN2 One-Make race shakedown Video
http://carfreaks.net/content/?p=165