New Civic Type R 3rd Gear Issue Beware!

[obsessionz]

Hi Guys just letting everyone know whos thinking of buying the new CTR there is a 3rd gear issue which is pretty big in the UK now there is no fix for it as yet ... so just becareful ...

Please see link below...
http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/forum/v...t&sd=a&sid=225 ab0f98cc68908ef17c87d9239734c

[tofu]

its the same problem with the DC5 TypeS.

[PolitoHood]

its the same problem with the DC5 TypeS.

what problem with the Type S????

[3r1k]

3rd gear

[45SET]

which is the same problem they have in the new civic type r

fark i need to do more work......

[00dc2]

Hi Guys just letting everyone know whos thinking of buying the new CTR there is a 3rd gear issue which is pretty big in the UK now there is no fix for it as yet ... so just becareful ...

Please see link below...
http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/forum/v...t&sd=a&sid=225 ab0f98cc68908ef17c87d9239734c

why dont you spend 1 minute saying what the problem actually is so everyone doesnt have to join that forum to see what its about.. i cant get in without joining...

[obsessionz]

Theres pages full of people complaining about 3rd gear is very hard to get into and grinds... if your interested in the topic sign up to the forum and have a read...

[00dc2]

ok thanks for the summary.

strange.. honda didnt have any issues with the old DC2 or S2000 boxes.. i noticed the DC5 box wasnt as nice as mine... might be a bad trend

[tofu]

i'm a member there...
here are some of what people have posted...

How are you getting on with the 3rd gear "problem" mentioned in another thread a while ago ? My FN2 is ok but going into 3rd sometimes has a definately different feel.

I can feel 3rd gear engage. Sometimes I get a "don't release the clutch yet because it needs to be pushed into 3rd some more" moment.

It does not feel "wrong" but I have to be more precise and deliberate when going into 3rd.

These observations have all come at low revs (it has not gone over 4000rpm yet because its done so few many miles) so I'm hoping 3rd won't be worse at 8000rpm !

I had my FN2 at the dealers for this problem, and was told it was a known issue, and Honda did not have a fix for it......hopefully that will put paid to the simplistic "old codgers" idea.

Giving it planty of vtec does not cure the issue, and it still rears its head now and again.

yep, mine does it

3rd gear is funny, you can feel two notches when you select it. If you don't hit the second notch it will bounce out.

If I am driving about town and my concentration lapses I do pop out of third. I need to remember to push it in hard till I get the second notch.

Having test driven the FN2 the past two weekends, I ran the gearbox through some rapid changes and did not notice any problems on either test car. I use a very positive swift technique and found it very slick but to tell the truth didn't really try many gentle town driving changes.

I am ordering a Milano red GT this weekend, should I be concerned by this ?
I'm sure nearly all of you are competent drivers, so this is a genuine problem on some cars.
I shall watch developments here with interest. Perhaps I should take one on a gentler test drive to check for this problem.

Just got my call back from Honda Technical, so I am pleased that they followed up on my call to them yesterday.

I was advised that the gearbox issue is under investigation, but there is still no resolution.

They have had a handful of owners raise the issue with them, but judging by the comments on this forum there are quite a number of us affected.

I would recommend that owners should raise the issue with their dealer, such that it can be logged with Honda Technical. That will ensure some focus is kept on the problem.

Hope this helps.

Yep, definately a 'two notch' feel, as opposed to the other gears. Having said that, I haven't crunched 'em yet, just been aware of the difference in feel and acted accordingly. Sorry, but if it takes a split second more to ensure the gear has been properly selected then surely it's worth making sure it's in if that's how it works?

I've also got the '3rd gear issue'. In the past week I've crunched 3 times in 3rd. Each time this has been when first starting the car up and driving with low revs.

When warm the feel in 3rd is inconsistent. Sometimes notchy, other times perfect. I thought it was just me being half asleep when setting off in a morning, but looks like there's more to it after reading this thread!

Ed, I often crunch by accident in my wifes corsa, the box is crap (well 2nd sticks really bad) in that, but it is my fault even in that, its being too soft or not concentrating enough.

Saying all that I find the gear position in the FN2 is slightly further away than my previous car and sits somewhere between the ep3 and most other cars.

My shortish arms and lack of reach to the box doesnt help either, maybe if it was a tad closer to me rather than feel like it im having to slightly reach for it it would help. Not that im stretching but its not an ideal position I find.

I also find that with the clutch, depending on how i'm sitting and reach to the pedals, it's quite often a combination of poor seating position often on the stretch a little if you know what I mean, as I said previous, its not a stretch as such. All these factors add to poor changes and clutch action.

these are only a few quotes from 8 pages of members saying there's a problem with their new FN2

I get exactly the same problem with my TypeS, driving slowly or on the limit, hot or cold, doesn't matter, it happens.

[dc2rrrr]

Ok everyone sell your dc5's and but the king of all DC2 WWWWWOOOOOOO

[szymonsta]

ok thanks for the summary.

strange.. honda didnt have any issues with the old DC2 or S2000 boxes.. i noticed the DC5 box wasnt as nice as mine... might be a bad trend

..one of many bad trends honda is developing..

[PolitoHood]

I have an S and I have no problems, I sometimes feel that it rubs something going into 2nd when its cold but that s it.

[shingwai]

I didn't notice it while driving it slow nor pushing it hard. The CTR gear box may be designed for precise shifters.

[Dez]

I can't belive that they STILL can't fix it, It's been a problem for fucking over 3 years now!!!! incredible... although it doesn't help that for the first 2 years Honda were in complete denial that it even existed...

"Ohh yes THAT 3rd year issue... Yes we have decided it exists now... dunno what it is....but w/e..."

[hebe]

I didn't notice it while driving it slow nor pushing it hard. The CTR gear box may be designed for precise shifters.

Do you own a CTR?