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    U dont like the bubble civic r? Have a look at this

    This is seriously impressive.

    Few cars have been as eagerly anticipated or made as big an impact as Honda's Civic Type R. The British-built sensation saw off all-comers in a first test against key rivals in Issue 946, and established itself as Auto Express's favourite hot hatch in the process.

    Now there's worse news for the opposition. The Japanese firm has created the Type R-R, an even more focused version of the class winner, and a spiritual successor to Ford's Escort Cosworth - and it looks set to kick the Focus ST into touch! We were first to put it to the test.

    Its basis is a standard Type R, but a series of modifications swell engine power and reduce kerbweight.

    Honda has stripped out the cabin, removing anything that isn't absolutely necessary in the name of shedding the pounds. Gone is the stereo, and for the moment sound deadening is absent, too. The standard seats have now been replaced with figure-hugging racing items, and what these lack in adjustability they make up for by giving a sportier, lower driving position than in the regular car. The racy feeling from behind the wheel is suitably amplified when you press the dash-mounted starter.

    As the engine bursts into life, it sounds far more raucous than that of the standard model. Bosses were adamant the original Type R didn't need buckets of power, yet engineers clearly couldn't help themselves when it came to specifying the R-R's motor.

    Thanks to careful tuning, this car kicks out a tyre-burning 260bhp. It's the same basic i-VTEC 2.0-litre unit, but Honda has reduced friction on the internals and redesigned the camshafts. However, the greatest power gains have come from electronic improvements made using the ECU to operate the VTEC system.

    Now, the engine doesn't go into fuel-sipping mode at lower revs, improving throttle response as a result. Meanwhile, the VTEC set-up cuts in at 5,100rpm instead of 5,400rpm. So rather than the perceptible increase in power you get when VTEC is unleashed on the standard model, the R-R's engine feels stronger throughout the rev range thanks to a 30 per cent hike in torque. Combining a compliant ride with taut handling is one of the standard hot Civic's greatest attributes. And although this car's suspension has been revised to give it more focused handling, it still rides bumps surprisingly well.

    Probably the biggest change is to the steering. It has been made even more responsive, so the smallest input to the Alcantara-clad wheel has an immediate impact on the vehicle's position on the road. However, you do have to put your faith in the system because it's lacking in feedback, particularly at low speeds. Still, the car's handling remains nimble and sure-footed.

    Another area that doesn't fall short on the standard model is the gear-change. Yet while the original is a manual, this car gets a six-speed sequential unit. You use the clutch to start off, and then simply pull the lever back to shift up and push it forwards to go down through the box.

    Changes are made in only 80 milliseconds, which gives a brutal edge to the Type R-R, particularly as the steering wheel writhes with every upshift. Considering how much extra power is going through the front wheels, traction is remarkable. You'd expect to spend a lot of time sitting in a cloud of expensive tyre smoke, but engineers have been careful to tune the suspension so that does not happen. Instead, the car gets on with the job of entertaining its driver with even more purpose than the standard car.

    Our drive has left us in no doubt that Honda's Civic is the undisputed hot hatch champion. With more power, it just gets better!



    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...lasts_off.html


    #2
    Wow that is awesome . It looks like that JAS motorsport civic with the stickers taken off.

    I must admit that I was not so keen on the hatch CTR at first but this one looks nice. Is this for real? or is it just some cruel joke?

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      #3

      dunno abt the roof scoop though...but im glad honda jp decided to do this...havent heard one good thing about the model that is coming to us :S

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        #4
        just a racing prototype, im sure the real RR wont be as hardcore.

        I mean sequentail racing transmission? LOL

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          #5
          they better be having this model in white!

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            #6
            Are they going to be selling the CTR in 2 doors here in aus ? or just the 4 door versions ?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Lowa View Post
              Are they going to be selling the CTR in 2 doors here in aus ? or just the 4 door versions ?
              the 2 door

              that's cool
              ClubITR | Like

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                #8
                Its still the same egg, just with less yolk.
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                  #9
                  australia only has the 2 door UK CTR coming

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                    #10
                    now thats a REAL typeR!!!

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                      #11
                      still looks a bit like a Daewoo Lanos - just with a nice kit and buckets of power.

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                        #12
                        i wounder if that gearbox would fit in a DC5r...... interesting..

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                          #13
                          GEARBOX! Imagine how much fun this thing would be to drive through the twisties... awesome

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                            #14
                            It appears that the rumored Civic Type R-R is more than just vapourware, Auto Express is currently running a hands-on article in its latest issue on the Type R-R. This new civic looks to be an absolute beast, but it's a beast with a heavy price tag... £64,000* is a lot of money for an extra 60bhp and no sound deadening.
                            Read on for more information and Auto Express article.
                            Extortionate?

                            Well maybe just a little considering you could buy three brand new Civic Type R’s for the same money. So what exactly are you getting for the extra £44,000 pounds? The type R-R starts off as a standard Type R but the clever folks at Honda give it a little spit and polish and add an extra R, contrary to the popular rumors the car still uses the 2.0l i-VTEC unit and not a 2.4l as expected. The car also retains its front wheel drive transmission and is not four wheel drive as was also expected.
                            Here’s a quick list of changes that I’ve gleamed from the article:
                            What you get
                            • Full-on race bucket seats
                            • Alcantara steering wheel
                            • Dash mounted start button
                            • Tweaked ECU
                            • VTEC cut-in reduced from 5,400rpm to 5,100rpm
                            • Six speed sequential gearbox
                            • Increased steering response
                            • Tweaked suspension
                            What they take away

                            • Stripped out cabin
                            • No stereo
                            • No Sound Deadening
                            I can't help but suspect your could get similar results for a lot less, there are many tuners getting similar power figures from existing Type R's without charging their clients £44k. There again sequential gearboxes aren't cheap, likely setting you back the best part of £5k, but even taking that into account; is the Type R-R badge really worth a premium of this size?
                            * The price quoted is taken from the Auto Express magazine and is not mentioned in the online article, it is also not stated whether this will definately be a production model or simply a race series option. Judging by the indicated cost I'd assume the latter.
                            ..

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                              #15
                              I love what they take away though lol

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