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    Honda to return to F1 with McLaren?

    An article by Andrew Benson.

    McLaren are to use Honda engines as the Japanese company returns to Formula 1 for the first time since 2008.

    Honda pulled out of F1 after years of poor results with its own team, which subsequently won the championship as Brawn in 2009 and is now Mercedes.

    But the engine manufacturer has decided to return because of next year's introduction of turbo engines featuring energy recovery technology.

    McLaren are first expected to race with Honda engines in 2015.

    A McLaren spokesman said: "We never discuss media rumours about potential partners."

    Mercedes, which currently supplies McLaren's engines, said it could not comment on its partner's plans, but its F1 executive director Toto Wolff said: "We are looking for a long-term engine supplier relationship with McLaren-Mercedes."

    McLaren has a contract with Mercedes with options for the team to renew for 2014 and 2015. McLaren are expected to take up only the first of those options.

    Honda president Takanobu Ito on 8 February admitted that the company was "studying" the idea of an F1 return.

    The company has not yet officially confirmed its plans to return.

    The McLaren-Honda deal revives a partnership that had great historical success.

    McLaren, with Honda as an engine supplier, dominated F1 in the late 1980s and early 1990s, winning four consecutive world drivers' championships with Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost, as well as the corresponding years' constructors' titles.

    In 1988, McLaren with Senna and Prost enjoyed the most successful season in F1 history, winning 15 of the 16 races.

    Honda also dominated the mid-1980s with Williams, winning the 1987 drivers' title with Nelson Piquet and the 1986 and 1987 constructors' championships.

    Honda would become the fourth road-car manufacturer supplying engines in F1, alongside Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari (Fiat).

    Honda's decision to re-enter F1 vindicates the switch to the new engine formula, which has been criticised and opposed by F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone as an unnecessary expense.

    Its proponents, mainly governing body the FIA and the car manufacturers already in F1, have long argued that the sport needed to abandon the current formula for 2.4-litre V8 naturally aspirated engines because they were an out-of-date technology and out of tune with the requirement for energy efficiency.

    The new engines will feature extensive use of energy recovery systems, a technology that is increasingly prevalent in road cars.

    Mercedes has said that it is aiming for a thermal efficiency of 40% with its new turbo engine - a figure markedly more efficient than even the best road-car diesel engines, which are in the region of 35%.

    The formula promotes efficiency through a limit on the amount of fuel that can be used and is expected to further the development of such engines in road cars.

    Last month, McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh was critical of the sport's vacillation over the new engines, which were initially planned to be introduced in 2013 before Ecclestone engineered a delay of a year.

    "[Road-car] manufacturers need to see it happen now," Whitmarsh said.

    "Even in the last few weeks people [have been saying]: 'Oh, should we really go V6 next year?'

    "We're committed to it. Good, bad or indifferent we've got to do it now. We've been saying it for long enough, we've delayed it long enough, we've actually got to bloody well do it.

    "If I was on the board of a big OEM [road-car manufacturer], I'd be saying: 'Let's wait a couple of years and see whether F1 actually does what it says it's going to do for a change.'

    "So [the] combination of the world economy, the biggest recession in OEM history, uncertainty over whether we've really done it, but F1 remains a fantastic environment for brand exposure for OEM and I predict in four-five years' time we'll be back up to four or five OEMs in the sport.

    "You'll have a constant churn. For some of us F1 is our core business. OEMs will be here when it suits them and it helps them sell cars or helps them differentiate the cars so they can sell them at a higher price. There is no love for the sport.

    "They have to be there for rational business reasons. So creating technologies that are socially relevant, are appropriate to the automotive industry [is important].

    "But we now have to prove we have the governance in our sport, that it's consistent and stable, that we're not all going to go bust. I'd hold back a bit if I was an OEM."

    Source

    Excited?
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    #2
    As appealing as the fantasy sounds, the lack of solid sources renders the news as journalistic rumour. The best he got was "studying". The rest of the article just analyses historic achievements and design perspectives for F1. Thanks for the article though Felix!
    Honda Nationals, September 9-10, get amongst it!

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      #3
      Originally posted by cordz View Post
      As appealing as the fantasy sounds, the lack of solid sources renders the news as journalistic rumour. The best he got was "studying". The rest of the article just analyses historic achievements and design perspectives for F1. Thanks for the article though Felix!
      Well said. As much as we'd all like to see Honda return to F1, it's more than likely going to be a long and suspenseful road ahead.
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        #4
        Good point Louis.

        We can only hope that Honda do something exciting again in the F1 world.
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          #5
          Well, it seems the truth runs deeper.

          http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._deal_is_done/
          Honda Nationals, September 9-10, get amongst it!

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            #6
            Originally posted by cordz View Post
            Well, it seems the truth runs deeper.

            http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._deal_is_done/
            Mmm, fingers crossed that's the truth, 2015 can't get here soon enough
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              #7
              So an impending McLaren-Honda era has been confirmed.

              But who will be their Senna?

              Hmmmmmmm

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                #8
                Whoa whoa!

                Honda is expected to announce before the week is out its highly anticipated return to F1.

                Citing Honda sources, major Japanese newspapers including the Asahi Shimbun and Yomiuri Shimbun, and the Kyodo news agency, are reporting that a formal announcement of the 2015 comeback is now imminent.

                The announcement will almost certainly be of a works engine collaboration with the great British team McLaren starting in 2015, and potential customer engine deals for the radical new turbo V6 regulations.

                A Honda spokesperson would not comment.

                Interestingly, however, Tokyo-born former Honda driver Takuma Sato has ruled out a return to formula one in the near future, insisting he is committed to Indycar.

                "Formula one isn't the only racing," the 36-year-old told NBC. "My first focus is to win races here, win the (Indy) 500 and win the championship."

                German-language Speed Week, however, said it could be a totally different story for the newly-departed and formerly Toyota-backed Japanese Kamui Kobayashi.

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                  #9
                  Honda have confirmed This is awesome!! Looking forward to this partnership.

                  Honda on Thursday confirmed its 2015 return to formula one, announcing it will supply engines to its 80s and 90s works partner McLaren.

                  "We're proud and thrilled to be joining forces once more to take on the world in formula one," McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh said.

                  The carmaker will produce its 1.6 litre V6 racing engines at its plant in Tochigi, Japan, while McLaren will manage chassis development and manufacture.

                  Honda pulled out of F1 at the end of 2008, soon after the onset of the global financial crisis; its Brackley-based team became Brawn GP and then Mercedes.

                  Before it switches to Honda in 2015, McLaren has committed to continue to work "diligently and professionally" with Mercedes power in 2014, as F1 transitions to turbo V6 power.

                  Honda president Takanobu Ito said: "We have the greatest respect for the FIA's decision to introduce these new regulations".

                  More here on TMR
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                    #10
                    http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/insi...ula-1-history/

                    Word is that they will be using similar colours and graphics that they used to use back in the day! Super excited about this.

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                      #11
                      So it's confirmed.

                      Can't wait to see how this plays out.

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                        #12
                        Mark Webber should drive for the Mc-Laren - Honda.

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                          #13
                          So excited about this I might even start watching f1 again,

                          Originally posted by teee94 View Post
                          Mark Webber should drive for the Mc-Laren - Honda.
                          That's the dumbest idea ever, I think they should get someone who can drive, ricciardo would be a far better option (for us aus-honda fanboys) but I'd say he'll be sweating on webb's seat
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                            #14
                            Honda confirm their UK base.

                            http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com...f1-operations/
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                              #15
                              It's all happening!!

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